Hairstyle Concerns for The New Races

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I am saying that just because he is telling us that we might get more does not mean that we will get it soon or that we get many of that. Its just simply a small promise but nothing of detail behind it. I am not saying that we dont get any at all...

The reason why people are still posting about male Viera and female Hrothgar is because he simply did not promise us anything, just that they will look into this. Thus people want to keep it on their radar to show their want for it.

He said this ...

"We will be introducing more hair styles for Hrothgar, but those will be to strengthen the image or the roll playing of a “beast” so those will be only for Hrothgar. Please look at it as a race that is different from the existing ones from the base concept.

Q: That means there will be new face patterns as well…?

Yoshida: “We probably have to do that” so we are prepared, but I told our team that we will release 5.0 first so that will come at some time in the future *laugh*

Q: *laugh* So we can expect new patterns at some point after the release of “Shadowbringers”?

Yoshida: Yes. To phrase it differently, we had to make up our minds on that in order to achieve what we wanted to with the Hrothgar "

This is not a "maybe". This is not like Male Viera or female Hrothgar where he basically said "MAYBE if we can overcome the many hurdles that stop us from doing it then perhaps you will see them in some manner" aka the most polite way of saying No without saying No imo.

No ... this is him saying "Yes, this is something we will do after we get ShB released. In order to get them out how we wanted we had to decide to do it this way"

That is good news.

"But we don't know WHEN or how many!"

So? I should be upset that they didn't detail out their planned progress on these additions to us beyond "Sometime after 5.0 releases"? For a game with many planned updates that updates often?

Its just simply bad in my opinion to say that they have the same options as other races because its not true.

LMAO, I have legit been saying that they have DIFFERENT options than other races. Like Yoshi said, they should be considered different from any other race on the very base concept. They can be given 32 hair styles, but by the very nature of how they work that could be spread out between the 4 we have or between 8 brand new heads and you still simply wont be happy with it.

You can try and spin it into something positive but its not.

Yoshi: We will bring out new Hrothgar only hairstyles and faces after the release of 5.0!

Me: This is good! We will be given more options for this unique and awesome race.

You: This is NOT something positive...!

Like ... do you know what spinning is?

Lets view it like that: You want to create one new character: If you choose a female Viera you can choose the face you want and then later choose from 8 unique hairstyles or 8 similiar ones. If you go and create a Hrothgar and choose one face you have one hairstyle for it and one variation for that. There is simply no way to have a face and choose the style you like, you are stuck with it. They are restricted in the hair department when other races are not.

We have no clue how they will go about allowing you to change hair yet. This is uncharted waters, so perhaps Hrothgar (as part of being a completely different race from the base concept) will have the ability to change faces. Or maybe not and SE will demand money for that. Or maybe you can change between hairs just for that face. We'll find out in a few days.

But yeah, they clearly have a hair restriction as it's linked to faces. They also have the ability to chance the color and pattern of the fur on their bodies (something I'd say is slept on by far too many). They are a completely different race with different and unique options.

I am not saying that he is lying about everything or that we should never trust his words. But its the sad truth that there has been stuff in the past that we never got even when they talked about it, or that were changed (like the housing timer part), so I just pointed out that him saying something does not mean it will happen like we want. Thats just how business work. He might be passionate about this project but he is still the face of a company and we do know that they are not always completely truthful to us or tell us things that we want to hear so that people might be less angry.

Then what is your point?

That we should stay upset for the possibility that he may be lying? That we should be upset that they didn't give us COLD HARD NUMBERS! "How many hairstyles and faces? How long will we have to wait!?"
With this level of cynicism for the man I find it hard to believe you enjoy this game or discussing anything about it.

Seems like you just want people to be as upset as you sooooo you try to point out why this news (from the one interview where he addresses this topic) shouldn't be trusted or give people some relief just so that your feelings or negativity stay valid.

In this case he simply said that we will get more later. He never says how many and when. So if we only get one new mane at the end of the next expansion then he is still true to his words, but I am not sure if people would truly be happy about this. That is just the whole point of that post. That we simply cant say if they get much.

That's just the most weirdly pessimistic (and frankly ... entitled) stance on this.

He doesn't need to tell us all the details, we'll find out when we do. Not knowing all the details is not a good reason to think nothing of his comments on the matter or the worse possible outcome.

Like the comment about Viera. What if "Some" means they get 2 hair styles at the end of the expansion and that's it? You see how strange that sounds?

Sounds like you just really something to complain about to me.

About the manes: He wanted them to have a certain look. But how much can you do keep it that way? How many manes will we get that thanks to that restriction will look too similiar?

There's probably countless ways to make wild looking man hair that work on animal faces. They can even give em dreads ... I do not see your point :/