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  1. #6591
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    What would be cool however, would be to add stuff like some of my art, and some of the other poster's art on how they envision male viera, and add those to the OP. I got quite a few likes on my past piece, and having it there would be really cool, and a really big compliment. Not just my art either, a lot of users here have posted equally cool stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    What would be cool however, would be to add stuff like some of my art, and some of the other poster's art on how they envision male viera, and add those to the OP. I got quite a few likes on my past piece, and having it there would be really cool, and a really big compliment. Not just my art either, a lot of users here have posted equally cool stuff!
    I think this is an excellent suggestion. It helps eliminate bias, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I think this is an excellent suggestion. It helps eliminate bias, too.
    The OP does have some previous fan art, and I just think it would be really cool for showing the community here coming together and having some of their art pieces added to the thread. It really would feel amazing. I can personally attest to the amount of effort, and thought, I put into my art, and I'm sure other users here put just as much, maybe even more in their work! It just would be something that I know would make a lot of the artists here smile, and even if everyone's visions of male viera may vary, it is overall a community thing, and shows SE just how excited users here are about the idea of male viera!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    The OP does have some previous fan art, and I just think it would be really cool for showing the community here coming together and having some of their art pieces added to the thread. It really would feel amazing. I can personally attest to the amount of effort, and thought, I put into my art, and I'm sure other users here put just as much, maybe even more in their work! It just would be something that I know would make a lot of the artists here smile, and even if everyone's visions of male viera may vary, it is overall a community thing, and shows SE just how excited users here are about the idea of male viera!
    I'm in complete agreement! Speaking of art, the lodestone was just updated with some:



    Source: https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...a60cae54b16ec4

    I think the Hrothgar looks very cool! I'm hoping that we'll see a lot of success with them so that Yoshi-P might be inclined to give male viera a nice amount of muscle. I've been spotting a lot more male raen and xaela around in recent months, too.
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    Last edited by Theodric; 06-15-2019 at 04:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'm in complete agreement! Speaking of art, the lodestone was just updates with some:



    Source: https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...a60cae54b16ec4

    I think the Hrothgar looks very cool! I'm hoping that we'll see a lot of success with them so that Yoshi-P might be inclined to give male viera a nice amount of muscle. I've been spotting a lot more male raen and xaela around in recent months, too.
    That art is amazing!
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  6. #6596
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    My point is, you guys just want Viera to be Eleze 2.0: Elezen done right. They didn't do that with female Viera and they shouldn't do it for male Viera.
    As someone who has always really liked the idea of playing an Elezen, but then instantly regrets the fantasia, Viera are definitely a bit of "Elezen done right" to me.

    I've always wanted them to have softer/rounder features (like Aymeric & the twins), better proportions, and perhaps remove that stick from their bums while they run.

    Insert Viera! They've got the height and the more serious personalities like Elezen, but they were able to remedy the things I didn't like about Elezen.

    Now obviously these are different races, and I feel that they do look/act different enough to not be a problem - but when you compare the two side by side, it's not a MASSIVE difference. If they gave male Viera the same type of "upgrade", I think that could work quite well.

    Just a couple of examples for you:



    These aren't perfect comparisons - the first picture was taken with both of their faces looking straight at the camera. The stances are a bit different, so I think it's a bit harder to gauge from this angle. For the second set, I had the clever idea to make skin/hair match better, and also tried to have their navels in the center in order to get a more accurate shape comparison. Again, not perfect, but at least will give an idea
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 06-15-2019 at 04:39 PM.

  7. #6597
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    You just proved my point in every conceivable way


    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'm in complete agreement! Speaking of art, the lodestone was just updated with some:



    Source: https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...a60cae54b16ec4

    I think the Hrothgar looks very cool! I'm hoping that we'll see a lot of success with them so that Yoshi-P might be inclined to give male viera a nice amount of muscle. I've been spotting a lot more male raen and xaela around in recent months, too.
    Love the art, finally a picture without an Elezen/Hyur/female Miqo'te for once!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    You just proved my point in every conceivable way
    You said female Viera didn't just go "Elezen done right". I stated I feel there is definitely a bit of an "Elezen done right " feeling to them. These two statements do not support each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    As someone who has always really liked the idea of playing an Elezen, but then instantly regrets the fantasia, Viera are definitely a bit of "Elezen done right" to me.

    I've always wanted them to have softer/rounder features (like Aymeric & the twins), better proportions, and perhaps remove that stick from their bums while they run.

    Insert Viera! They've got the height and the more serious personalities like Elezen, but they were able to remedy the things I didn't like about Elezen.

    Now obviously these are different races, and I feel that they do look/act different enough to not be a problem - but when you compare the two side by side, it's not a MASSIVE difference. If they gave male Viera the same type of "upgrade", I think that could work quite well.

    Just a couple of examples for you:



    These aren't perfect comparisons - the first picture was taken with both of their faces looking straight at the camera. The stances are a bit different, so I think it's a bit harder to gauge from this angle. For the second set, I had the clever idea to make skin/hair match better, and also tried to have their navels in the center in order to get a more accurate shape comparison. Again, not perfect, but at least will give an idea
    I....honestly didn't think they'd look that similar side by side...if I didn't know better, I would've thought you just photoshopped a Viera head over an Elezen o.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    You said female Viera didn't just go "Elezen done right". I stated I feel there is definitely a bit of an "Elezen done right " feeling to them. These two statements do not support each other.
    That's incorrect. Moreover, you're mis-stating what I stated. Quote the entire message.
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    Last edited by Amnmaat; 06-15-2019 at 05:19 PM.

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