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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Which is why I'm directing this more towards SE directly, of course the players will use a loophole because they want their daily rewards fast. If they could force level 50/60 roulette to only queue into Brayflox HM without a care for what a roulette means they would. This is more about game design.
    ....Why "Force" The Crystal Tower with this "Loophole" when you can literally just Que into them?
    And if more people are Queuing for Labyrinth of the Ancients, they don't need to do this 'Loophole' your talking about because everyone wants it.

    But since you bring up 50/60 Roulette. I think they need to make a separate Lv60 Roulette. Because 9/10 you will get an ARR lv50 dungeon, and those things can be long, and they reward shit EXP. A 60 roulette would be nice cause HW dungeons dont get a whole lot of attention.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    If someone queues with an ilevel of 80 you can kick them from the raid if enough agree that they did that in a vindictive/trollish way. By the way with my suggestion your gear will get LOCKED when you start the duty. Your example of someone trolling a tank or a healer by removing your own gear during the instance won't work, your gear gets locked the moment you get in the duty.
    Ive never seen this, Ive never seen anybody run This old Content without at least having 120 Gear which is EXTREMELY easy to get now.
    Only People who'd be running with Minimum Gear are People looking for Minimum Runs, I dont think it would be right or fair to just go up and kick somebody because they are running low level gear.
    I wasn't talking about Trolling at all, I was saying some might find it funny that someone tried to Que in with Low Level Gear....I haven't seen anybody do it in the past 4 years Ive been playing. But Im against locking Inventory, what if somebody accidentally didn't check their gear/put on the wrong Set? Ive done that quite a few times, that and forgot to put on my Job Stone. Plus what about times that somebody gets a better drop then what they have equipped? They should be allowed the option to put that on.

    This whole system just sounds more like a Vindictive attack on people. Spite on people.
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    It's a difficult issue, and of course we get the inverted problem in leveling roulette - where the lack of ilevel restrictions is probably necessary so people can find a party at all for the close-to-level-cap dungeons.

    I wonder whether the game coding would let them implement some sort of shifting ilevel check - if you're Lv50-59 you need X ilevel to participate; reach Lv60 and the requirement goes up, so you need to be well-geared to participate.



    Quote Originally Posted by Reeereee View Post
    No, they're right. Queue as a dps and watch your spot. It regularly only goes down by one or two spots, which means a lot of people are queueing directly for lvl 50 raids.

    Edit: Wait, I'm thinking of main story queue, but the same principle likely applies. The main story dps queue is going down one or two spots at a time but I'm almost never getting the new player bonus which means a lot of people are queuing for it directly for mog tomes.
    That goes both ways though. If I'm queuing with a character that can only access the Lv50 raids, I can see the queue in front of me go down slowly as people presumably get pulled into the Lv60/70 raids.



    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    ....Why "Force" The Crystal Tower with this "Loophole" when you can literally just Que into them?
    To get their daily roulette bonus with minimal work.

    I don't do it, and I don't agree with doing it, but that's what would motivate people to do it.
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    Laphael Lanelar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I wonder whether the game coding would let them implement some sort of shifting ilevel check - if you're Lv50-59 you need X ilevel to participate; reach Lv60 and the requirement goes up, so you need to be well-geared to participate.
    Thats exactly what we need. For all roulettes. It would solve the problem of undergeared ppl in leveling roulette and the problem of "forcing" lvl 50 content for the other roulettes.
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    Rhoo Bajharat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That goes both ways though. If I'm queuing with a character that can only access the Lv50 raids, I can see the queue in front of me go down slowly as people presumably get pulled into the Lv60/70 raids.
    That's why I used MSQ roulette. It's all the same level and always exactly 4 dps. Well, actually I used it because I run it a lot more and forgot, but the principle applies. If that many people are queuing directly for castrum meridianum there are probably as much or more queuing directly for Syrcus Tower.
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