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    Everyone's shouting for more ilevel-restrictions on dungeons as people are struggeling through their roulettes with undergeared partymembers, and now OP comes along and demands the very reverse.

    I think minimum ilevels are a good thing. Sure, people can "abuse" this to get low level dungeons/raids, but whatever: If they want to do a 50, just let them.. I don't see this negativ. As far as my server concerns, 60ths/70ths raids still pop up in daily roulette and queing directly into one may take a bit longer but was never a problem either. Also the natural demand on 50ths should be way higher because of Moogle-Stones, so people would be sorted into 50th-raids anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    This solution...
    What solution? You've proposed nothing that will actually "solve" this "problem."

    You want players forced into higher raids at low ilvl, just so they can be kicked/carried? You're literally suggesting entire alliances be punished because, what exactly?

    Alliance roulette exists, HW raids are there. Queue for the raids directly, and they'll pop eventually. There will never be enough players abusing the system to prevent you from running that content.
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    Just going to point out that 50/60 roulette are not there for XP but for tomes, if you are levelling, please, skip that one.
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    Just gonna throw my 2 cents : No!
    The motives have been pointed by the other people which took the time to reply to this thread.
    It's 2019 and people are demanding for strict rules to force other people to do stuff because they want something .

    It's a community , you don't play alone in that content and something that affects you doesn't affect the other 23 or the data center.
    I really do hope these kind of requests are not even taken into consideration to be forwarded and even thought about.
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    Players can also use this method to get certain Trials or 50/60 dungeons (through their Roulettes), although if you really need a certain duty you would probably specifically queue up for that particular one anyway and not expect a randomisation system do it for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    Players can also use this method to get certain Trials or 50/60 dungeons (through their Roulettes), although if you really need a certain duty you would probably specifically queue up for that particular one anyway and not expect a randomisation system do it for you.
    Note that for the Trials one, it cannot prevent the roulette from giving you Ravana, Bismarck, Susano or Lakshmi, as these lack any ilvl requirements.

    I am also pretty sure this is the reason why SE does not want to put an ilvl requirement on leveling dungeons. People could do the same and in order to avoid Toto-Rak, Aurum Vale, or any dungeon they dislike they will unequip their stuff, locking their roulette to Sastasha and Copperbell Mines (even more).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasminou View Post
    I am also pretty sure this is the reason why SE does not want to put an ilvl requirement on leveling dungeons. People could do the same and in order to avoid Toto-Rak, Aurum Vale, or any dungeon they dislike they will unequip their stuff, locking their roulette to Sastasha and Copperbell Mines (even more).
    I don't thing this would be the case for most people, as those "3-Button-Dungeons" are boring as f... so they don't want to do them over and over again.
    Usually I'm very happy if I get something beyond level 40 or so where single-pulls because of missing AOE-skills are not longer the case. It's actually "the higher the better" in leveling roulette, at least for me.

    But yeah, I guess Bots would be just spamming the low-level-dungeons with minimal iLevel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    And yet I used to get the Mhach raids all the time via Alliance Raid Roulette, until this mogtome event.
    Lucky
    I've gotten void ark maybe 5 times ever and dun scaith twice ever. ://
    Shame cause the 50 ones are so much easier (barring absolutely terrible groups) that I barely even have to pay attention. I'd love if I got more variety in that roulette than 60-30-10 ST-LoA-WoD :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    Lucky
    I've gotten void ark maybe 5 times ever and dun scaith twice ever. ://
    Shame cause the 50 ones are so much easier (barring absolutely terrible groups) that I barely even have to pay attention. I'd love if I got more variety in that roulette than 60-30-10 ST-LoA-WoD :P
    That said, I didn't get Dun Scaith a whole lot, but I'd say 1/4 of all my Alliance raids were either Void Ark or Wiping City, until a couple months ago, and now this last month it's dropped to never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    That said, I didn't get Dun Scaith a whole lot, but I'd say 1/4 of all my Alliance raids were either Void Ark or Wiping City, until a couple months ago, and now this last month it's dropped to never.
    Yeah if I do get one of the Mhach series, it's almost always Void Ark
    I think I've gotten Weeping city once, maybe twice
    Those runs did take longer, and holy heck my first Dun Scaith run was AWFUL, but I love those raids and enjoy them a lot more than running Syrcus Tower for the 800th time even if it is easier

    To the topic, I actually didn't realize that taking gear off to get lower level raids was a thing lol ... I just assumed it was because more people were at lower levels, and/or there were just less people who even had the 60 raids unlocked. It sucks but I've just kind of accepted it at this point :P Can't say I'd mind more variety, though, however they could go about making that happen
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