Feeling punished for having alts...

[CaptainLagbeard]

The weird part is that this is already allowed by making them tenants. We can share our house with other players, but can't share it with our own alts.

I think the only reason you can't Tenant your alts is because you can't add them to your friends list.. And the only reason you can't add them is because the person you want to add needs to be online...



The easiest workaround that wouldn't open up for friend add spam from the gold spambots would probably be adding into the companion app the ability to add characters to friends list.

[Melichoir]

A lot of games actually have account-shareable bank (or, like, a special shareable tab in the inventory), but about other points you are right.

This is a more recent invention now that I think about it, and the reason for account shared bank is pretty simple - less storage space for the player. As an example, in the old days of wow youd create bank alts so youd have more bank space to store crap. This was the same case in a lot of MMOs if I recall. The account banking however done away with that. Cleverly, it was marketed as a feature for players, but in reality it amounted to having less storage space overall for the convenience of having a new alt access the same storage space.

[Kaethra]

I don't get it. Everyone is going, "well you don't need that" or "you can buy this" or whatever excuse. Its like you all feel threatened about someone with an alt will somehow hurt your play.

There's no harm in letting someone have shared inventories. There's no harm in having easy access to MSQ completion for those who already completed it. There's no harm in giving shortcuts for alts. They've done the same work as you all have. Don't be threatened. Just let it happen.

This community has a very very big problem with playstyles different than theirs. It seems you all think your way of playing is not only the best way, but the only right way to play. And anyone deviating from that either needs to be corrected or punished.

[Melichoir]

I don't get it. Everyone is going, "well you don't need that" or "you can buy this" or whatever excuse. Its like you all feel threatened about someone with an alt will somehow hurt your play.

There's no harm in letting someone have shared inventories. There's no harm in having easy access to MSQ completion for those who already completed it. There's no harm in giving shortcuts for alts. They've done the same work as you all have. Don't be threatened. Just let it happen.

This community has a very very big problem with playstyles different than theirs. It seems you all think your way of playing is not only the best way, but the only right way to play. And anyone deviating from that either needs to be corrected or punished.

It's not a playstyle or hate thing. It just seems like a frivolous complaint that may cause more problems than help. For example, there are players who level alts simply for crafting purposes. I know a few. And if you set inventory to 'shared' between all characters, you wont get larger inventories to compensate. Youll just have the same inventory space. In this case, youll just get retainers shared between all characters (so just two total before having to buy more). Youre gonna end up screwing over people who dont want that. It may seem like a good feature to have, but it ultimately cuts down peoples inventory space for the convenience of accessing a shared storage.

[Shougun]

I'm a little worried if they share bank (retainer?) since it would make it seem that you would be punished for not having alts then but it's not end of the world, also could just give people the space even if they don't intend to use it for alts lol. But not only am I full on board with a number those suggestions I also think that it MIGHT be a way for SE to introduce some concepts that would cost them way too much memory before.

For example imagine we had a complete glamour log for each character... wewh lad. Obviously right now we only 200 (soon 400 iirc), but that's a very small % of actual gear in game (unlike some other popular MMOs out there which hold thousands of items). So now.. like WoW.. it's a log per ACCOUNT. That's a lot less potential info and even if someone wanted two logs it would mean SE gets paid more for that. Also consider Wild Star like housing that is account bound (am not suggesting to destroy the current system, just an option) where every player gets their own space to develop and have (Wild Star gives you a space that is like 8 times larger than our largest house's outside, and the inside depending on house you bought).

I really hope SE can get a hold of their memory issues (if you spend $20 in the mog shop that thing best be shared.. lol), and I imagine most of the issues are born from some of the 1.0 bones still haunting us :/.

[Halivel]

I don't get it. Everyone is going, "well you don't need that" or "you can buy this" or whatever excuse. Its like you all feel threatened about someone with an alt will somehow hurt your play.

There's no harm in letting someone have shared inventories. There's no harm in having easy access to MSQ completion for those who already completed it. There's no harm in giving shortcuts for alts. They've done the same work as you all have. Don't be threatened. Just let it happen.

This community has a very very big problem with playstyles different than theirs. It seems you all think your way of playing is not only the best way, but the only right way to play. And anyone deviating from that either needs to be corrected or punished.

It's not like we are against, we just point out why it's not in the game at the moment, and why probably will not be. I don't think that anybody will be against to have sharable inventory or housing really.

As for MSQ - there can be serious technical issues, but if it's possible to implement for alts, then why not. However… how to understand what is alt and what is not? And how to understand that MSQ is finished on main character? There are questions that you will need to ask yourself as programmer, and considering that SE has problem with code (Yoshida stated somewhere in interviews that fixing all issues they have in code will take full expansion period alone) such feature is doubtfully to be on the table in nearest future.

Making suggestions is never bad anyway.

[Dustytome]

Personally I want all collectables (mounts, emotes, minions, etc), achievements & glamour made account wide. I have quite a few alts, but it's still just me behind the wheel spending all that time on them.

Biggest issue is the single character mogstation only outfits. They make 24$ mount account wide, but 18$ outfit for a single character.
Even if the price was upped a little would still be better then having to pay 18$ per character you want the outfit on.

Yoshi has said in the past that it's not about the money but a limitation on the codes? I'll have to see if I can find that again, it was from a long time ago.

Edit: Found it.

Server structure is also part of the reason why items from the cash shop are per-character rather than per-account; Yoshida was quite clear that it’s not about getting more money for the same things but about the way that the game handles account-wide entitlements. Because of the limitations and the strain on the game’s database, they have to minimize those options; they would like, at the very least, to make more expensive items account-wide rather than per-character.

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[GrizzlyTank]

Yoshi has said in the past that it's not about the money but a limitation on the codes? I'll have to see if I can find that again, it was from a long time ago.

Edit: Found it.

[source]

Would have loved to have seen how their database is laid out...

[Jaywalker]

I don't get it. Everyone is going, "well you don't need that" or "you can buy this" or whatever excuse. Its like you all feel threatened about someone with an alt will somehow hurt your play.

There's no harm in letting someone have shared inventories. There's no harm in having easy access to MSQ completion for those who already completed it. There's no harm in giving shortcuts for alts. They've done the same work as you all have. Don't be threatened. Just let it happen.

This community has a very very big problem with playstyles different than theirs. It seems you all think your way of playing is not only the best way, but the only right way to play. And anyone deviating from that either needs to be corrected or punished.

Idk, maybe it’s because this is my first trip to the MMO scene but personally don’t feel upset or offended or “NO NICE THINGS FOR YOU”. A little puzzled but that’s it. Maybe because I don’t feel the urge to Fantasia a lot and pace through the alts? Improvements are nice I just don’t have strong objections atm.

[Selova]

I dont see the appeal honestly. Unless they make MSQ progress, glamour, achievements and mounts account wide. I think I'd rather just pay the 10 bucks to fantasia. That seems like way less of a hassle.