Suspended for Otter Nonsense

[SerLuke]

The thread was derailed into people just posting otter pics. If you joined in you were kind of asking for it.

To be fair anyone who honestly tried to engage the OP was met with insults/threats/PVP challanges, yet that thread is still standing even after he openly said his intent was to bait people from his old FC into posting and calling people morons.

[Hash_Browns]

To be fair anyone who honestly tried to engage the OP was met with insults/threats/PVP challanges, yet that thread is still standing even after he openly said his intent was to bait people from his old FC into posting and calling people morons.

Ain't saying the OP of that thread was in the right, but derailing the topic, and then sending a wave of otter pictures isn't exactly a good thing to do either.

[Vahlnir]

Ain't saying the OP of that thread was in the right, but derailing the topic, and then sending a wave of otter pictures isn't exactly a good thing to do either.

Yeah, this is probably why some people were met with suspensions. It wasn't so much the content of their posts, it was the intent. Not to say SE was completely right in this instance...they were otter pics for crying out loud, but I can see why they might have done it.

[AnnaRosa]

I definitely believe that if they gave OP mute post power that it would be abused and as a result we'd see more threads so each person felt like they could control the conversation in the way best lol. Managing human speech is just a lose lose. No matter what you've gone and done something wrong .

It's complex so in regards of the previous thread maybe the best solution is to take it out of the forums and solve it in real life because the way you should be using the forums would be to approach a more game related topics, instead of personal vendettas. Blergghh
The moderators and SE have nothing to do with anyone "Hero jokes" about the topic previously mentioned by Soul.

So quit trying to involve SE and forums community managers into your personal vendettas grow courage and solve it irl.

[Skivvy]

Honestly, the otters were annoying. Quite often the feeling behind the spam was:



While the OF is definitely no stranger to troll threads, I noticed this happening even in normal discussions. Just because you don't agree with someone's point of view, it doesn't necessarily make it any less valid, and also doesn't mean that you are now OK to try and brush off their viewpoint with an otter picture. If you can't formulate a proper response, perhaps you should have tapped out of the conversation long ago.


Before I get fingers pointed my way, no, I have not reported anyone on the forums. :3

[ScarboroughFairy]

Ottergater here, second suspension since joining.

I find it very amusing that they would ban posters over otters, but have the person looking to stir the crap pot by trying to antagonize and name/shame former FC-mates get off free. Rules seem very arbitrary here and I say that respectfully, lest they ban me for a third and final time like a great number of people on r/ffxiv.

[ForteNightshade]

Yeah, this is probably why some people were met with suspensions. It wasn't so much the content of their posts, it was the intent. Not to say SE was completely right in this instance...they were otter pics for crying out loud, but I can see why they might have done it.

If I am to be blunt, it shows bad practice. I've moderated several forums in the past and every single one of them, even those with higher member counts than here, either posted warnings directly in the thread, closed it down entirely or messaged the individual people first. We never went for straight bans unless a post was particularly egregious. Furthermore, what frustrates people here is the sheer lack of consistency. Nothing was done until someone went on a revenge reporting spree.

Simply put, the thread should never have made it to page two. It didn't pertain to FFXIV and wasn't propelling a worthwhile discussion.

[SerLuke]

It's complex so in regards of the previous thread maybe the best solution is to take it out of the forums and solve it in real life because the way you should be using the forums would be to approach a more game related topics, instead of personal vendettas. Blergghh
The moderators and SE have nothing to do with anyone "Hero jokes" about the topic previously mentioned by Soul.

So quit trying to involve SE and forums community managers into your personal vendettas grow courage and solve it irl.

Yes I agree, the OP of that thread should have spoken to his former FC mates instead of trying to bait them with a post on the forums.

[Vahlnir]

If I am to be blunt, it shows bad practice. I've moderated several forums in the past and every single one of them, even those with higher member counts than here, either posted warnings directly in the thread, closed it down entirely or messaged the individual people first. We never went for straight bans unless a post was particularly egregious. Furthermore, what frustrates people here is the sheer lack of consistency. Nothing was done until someone went on a revenge reporting spree.

Simply put, the thread should never have made it to page two. It didn't pertain to FFXIV and wasn't propelling a worthwhile discussion.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. I was just saying that I could see why things happened the way they did.

[Shougun]

It's complex so in regards of the previous thread maybe the best solution is to take it out of the forums and solve it in real life because the way you should be using the forums would be to approach a more game related topics, instead of personal vendettas. Blergghh
The moderators and SE have nothing to do with anyone "Hero jokes" about the topic previously mentioned by Soul.

So quit trying to involve SE and forums community managers into your personal vendettas grow courage and solve it irl.

Eh? That last line isn't directed at me is it (generic "you" not "shougun, youuuuuuu bad boi")? Also I don't know anything about Hero Jokes since I didn't even read the thread that people were Otterly Smited for.