I've kicked players for wearing the wrong gear!

[File2ish]

This one is ilvl synced, so kicking someone for wearing lvl 50 gear for example would be abusing vote-kick.

You may be misinformed about how the Level-Sync function works in this game.

Level-Sync only syncs overgeared players down to the maximum allowed for a specific dungeon.

For example, if I am ilvl 382 on my White Mage and I get into Castrum Abania, I will be synced down to ilvl 290.

If I put on my lvl 45/50 WHM AF armor and ~ilvl 50 accessories, I will not be synced up to 290. In fact, I cannot queue for the instance because my item level is too low.

I CAN, however, join Castrum Abania as a 382 synced to 290 and change my gear mid dungeon to lvl 50 gear, which will make me do the equivalent damage of a lvl 70 character wearing lvl 50 gear. With a macro you can change gearsets to do this instantly before the instance begins. I believe this is what Canadane was getting at.

[Mesarthim]

Some people seem to be forgetting one little detail about leveling dungeons:

You can queue for Castrum Abania, the highest tier of leveling dungeon we have right now wearing a level 1 weapon and no gear at all.
You cannot reasonably expect someone to be just gracefully accepted that way.

As per what the quote says, leveling dungeons don't have gear requirements. As the game progresses it's only going to get worse. There are requirements for 50, 60, and 70 content but not 1-49, 51-59, or 61-69 content.

[Misao-Hana]

First I would like to say, the ff14 community is one of the nices out there. Ppl talk and say hi, explain stuff if you are new to something they usualy arent mad if a mistake happens.
And I kinda get the reason behind the kicks, but I think its more damaging then helping. That person who just got kicked, wont improve in any way. Most of them will just keep going and worse, bc they had this experience, be even more stuck up to there point of view.
For me, I dont care what ppl are wearing. As long as we get to the end, im fine. If we start to die (no matter the gear of the movement) I just leave and seach for another group. Normaly that takes up to 5 trys and then Im out.

[Kaethra]

First I would like to say, the ff14 community is one of the nices out there. Ppl talk and say hi, explain stuff if you are new to something they usualy arent mad if a mistake happens.
And I kinda get the reason behind the kicks, but I think its more damaging then helping. That person who just got kicked, wont improve in any way. Most of them will just keep going and worse, bc they had this experience, be even more stuck up to there point of view.
For me, I dont care what ppl are wearing. As long as we get to the end, im fine. If we start to die (no matter the gear of the movement) I just leave and seach for another group. Normaly that takes up to 5 trys and then Im out.

I think you read kick, and thought the worst.

In the case the OP pointed out, the person being kicked has done something regressive. So your average player, even your average newbie will understand their main stat. Even if they don't initially they will by the time they're in the areas the OP described (he said he gives true newbies a chance). But the players being kicked are not newbies.

They are working on their next few classes (meaning they've leveled one at least already) and using the wrong gear on the current one. They're doing this to bypass the Item Level requirements. Its almost borderline exploitative. They know what they are doing. And they are doing it at the cost of a group having to pull them through it. So this isn't about them learning and improving. They've learned the system, they're gaming the system to help themselves at the cost of the group. That's not a nice thing to do. Joining a group under false pretenses is never a good thing.

Now like me, you might not really care. To be honest, I don't care for kicking someone for wearing derpy jewelry. I really don't, its not on my list of priorities. I don't even look at peoples' gear unless they're wearing something that looks cool. But the OP has the right to play with those whom he wishes to play with. And if the other players in the group think its reason enough to kick. Then they may kick for it.

That applies to groups that want to kick for people wearing glamours they don't like. Playing races they don't like. Or any other 'dumb' reason. As I said before, this is a democracy, a dictatorship of the majority.

[wereotter]

Same way they fixed some item dependencies from 1.0 to 2.0. An NPC who trades items for others of the same purpose. So if you're a tank with Slaying gear, you can turn it in for fending versions.

You can trade them in now, but they don't delete the items and haven't put restrictions on how they can be equipped, and from what they've said, that's strictly because of people who are currently wearing them on jobs where it would be an illegal item to have equipped later.

[Vercinotrix]

I've kicked healers for larping as dps just so they could get fast queues.

Letting me die to single pack pulls because you'd rather cast stone is a no-no.

[Mimilu]

I've kicked healers for larping as dps just so they could get fast queues.

Letting me die to single pack pulls because you'd rather cast stone is a no-no.

I should do that next time a tank wants to RP as a training dummy and not use cooldowns correctly while pulling adds. :P

[EvalcieChevallier]

Yeah yeah, I know that's a loaded header, but hear me out!

I wish Square-Enix would put class restrictions on accessories like they do with the rest of the gear.

I can't tell you guys how many times I'll get into a group with a caster wearing a mix-match of DEX/STR rings and other accessories that don't offer them any use to their class. And to top it all off, literally every-time I've ever mentioned this to someone--the response is always extreme hostility or extreme arrogance.

I'm totally cool with new players who don't know better making mistakes and then willing to learn and improve. That's great, they get a pass, because they're trying! I'd never kick someone for trying.

But man, I ask some folks why they're using a strength ring on their blackmage, and they say it increases their hit chance. I tell them that's not right. And they blow up on me. Those are the people I kick. And I do it way too often for it to just be a fluke. Like once a week often.

Is there a way we can fix this?

I've kicked players for being lalafell so I feel you
jk don't kick lalafells just punt them.

[Awha]

I've kicked players for being lalafell so I feel you
jk don't kick lalafells just punt them.

While a dick move a friend and I have kicked non lalalefells that make potato jokes or hug / pat emotes.

Does not happen often but I would be lying if I said I did not get a chuckle out of it when it does.

[Azper]

Color me surprised (or not) that there are in fact people who will defend a player wearing the wrong gear for their job.