Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Driavna]

And lets not forget that even if not many use the forum the amount of likes is still a good indicator because you can often use the forum to see a slice of the fanbase itself. We were not many that posted about things like Shirogane housing desaster, egi glamour, bunny suit for men and more and yet the constant asking and in case of the housing, the huge rage that was going on, brought change. Why? Because the forum can represent the view of the masses. (That is how representative survey works) I am not sure why some people dont understand that you dont need to get an answer from everyone and that a certain amount even just on a forum can be a good hint.

Sometimes stuff match but is more a coincidence than anything else, also, of late people are too quick and happy to support something without having a realistic grasp of what could entail.

On the other hand, players that are happy with the product (or is not a big deal for them) are less compelled to post about it and if they do are quickly told to do it in another topic. And if they do that some angry defenders or the other option are going to antagonize them (this already happened not long ago about skinny vs bulky).

And no, I'm not saying people coming and posting "I don't want X", more like instead of X I prefer Y (as an example, instead of new races I much rather like the current ones to be giving more options). And no, "why not both?" is not a realistic approach.

[zeylos]

Sometimes stuff match but is more a coincidence than anything else, also, of late people are too quick and happy to support something without having a realistic grasp of what could entail.

On the other hand, players that are happy with the product (or is not a big deal for them) are less compelled to post about it and if they do are quickly told to do it in another topic. And if they do that some angry defenders or the other option are going to antagonize them (this already happened not long ago about skinny vs bulky).

And no, I'm not saying people coming and posting "I don't want X", more like instead of X I prefer Y (as an example, instead of new races I much rather like the current ones to be giving more options). And no, "why not both?" is not a realistic approach.

I higly higly doubt that both of the missing gender threads being the most liked ever threads, the most talked about and requested feature, and the higest demand for something in the game is all a coincidence.

[Driavna]

I higly higly doubt that both of the missing gender threads being the most liked ever threads, the most talked about and requested feature, and the higest demand for something in the game is all a coincidence.

Do you have any real proof of this?

[zeylos]

Do you have any real proof of this?

Find another petition thread with 1.7k likes that isn't about the missing genders

[Alleo]

Sometimes stuff match but is more a coincidence than anything else, also, of late people are too quick and happy to support something without having a realistic grasp of what could entail.

I honestly dont know about one single big topic that was negative or mixed on the forum that did not show it in the game too, or that wasnt changed because of it (which kinda hints that they feared that it could negatively impact the game). In the end Yoshida himself waited for our responses for things like the "greed only" change which shows that they do care about the forum. (IMO they still have a bit of a communication problem)

Just genuinely curious. If Yoshida/GMs tells you soon that VieraMale and Hrothgar Females will be added with 6.0 Expansion. Will you be accepting about that and let the thread die, or will you keep going on about this issue?
As I myself have come to accept they probably will add them in the next expansion personally as the Devs clearly has shown that they know you all want these race/genders. It just sounds like you do not, and are like myself when I was a kid and kept begging my parents for X or Y until they caved and gave in.

This is just how I personally view you guys who think making demands are like. Kids, impatient, entitled, demanding, self centered etc.
I want you all to get the stuff you guys want dont get me wrong. I just have different ways of looking on things and accept what I have/get.

I myself have quite a list of changes and additions I would love to see ingame, but I also know there is a thing called time and how much someone can actually do within that timespace. Not many MMOs comes out with several races and classes pr expansions. Usually it is 1 new race, or 1 new class.

Of course I would be accepting of that, why shouldnt I? (Telling only about myself since I dont want to speak for others) But since they could not promise us anything, why should we or I stop? If we had stop talking about certain things like bunny suits for men after they talked about this we probably would have never gotten it, because they might have believed/hoped that we dont care anymore, the same with egi glamours. So I see no harm in posting in that one thread about this, even if its talking in circles (nobody is hurt by this existance and could just ignore it) In the end we dont know what the issue truly was and maybe constant feedback and talk will make the higher ups change their minds faster.

And if I am a kid, entitled or impatient for this then I dont care. I pay money to play this game, thus I have the right to ask for stuff. Do the devs have to answer that? No! (Its not like most of us dont know that..) But there comes a point where I do ask: Is the money still worth it? Are they doing too much against my view on the game? And if yes then I will take it elsewhere. Of course they still cant care and maybe I would even be in the minority and that is fine. But again, we all have the right to at least ask for it. The time is over for devs to be able to do anything without consequences. We thankfully live in a world where we can say whats on our mind (in a respectful way) and where the consumer does have some power.

In the end Yoshida himself has stated that a critic is worth more than a compliment, because then they know what they have done wrong and can change. They dont want people to go silently because if too many go then the game might die down and I at least get the feeling that the team does care in their ways for the game.

Just remember that maybe one day you will have your own topic or thing that you want to change. I believe you would not want to have people coming into your thread calling you a kid or entitled for it.

So I have a theory, I’ve mentioned it before and it COULD happen but then it couldn’t. So during ShB yoship states we will know that male viera exist due to npcs mentioning them. I wonder if we will get more in depth about their appearance. We might find out if they are taller than females, body type, the fur patch, proportions, etc. I’m hoping during this we will get some hints on if they are confirmed or not. I know I’m probably over exaggerating but why would they make more lore, even change the lore on male viera if they weren’t going to be added? Unless it’s just the same thing the dramaturge said.

I honestly only want them to be NPCs if they are 100% added as a playable character, because if not then their inclusion as 100% NPC only would hurt me at least a lot more than never seeing them. It would be like delicious carrot on the stick but you know that you wont reach it but get hungry anyway.

In the end the visit to the other shard could give them at least a big reason for showing of much more of such NPCs because they dont need that restriction there. Maybe on the first they reproduced equally for each gender and do not need to protect any woods.