The reason we healers DPS

[gumas]

iam fine with either way.
- tank pull 3 mobs + defensive CD = i help dps
- same as above but no defensive CD = stick with healing until 2-3 enemy left
- laid back party (a lot of chat, emote, chuuni talk, etc) = stick with healing, they dont mind anyway
- war tank = a bit skeptical but i can try help dps i guess
- with guildmate = yay trolling lol
- boss fight = most of the time stick with healing, only use dot spell
in the end its depend on the party i guess...

[Fellgon]

I prefer to focus on healing.

I dont DPS unless I know the tank can handle a few seconds without a heal or two.

I feel like there are far too many healers who want to DPS and neglect actually doing their real job as healers.

me too, i prefer focus on healing. And i do dps just in the ocasions you described above.

[StarRosie]

We already know. How could we not? You guys have been saying it over and over and over and over and over and over and over, almost non stop for a while now. We get it. I get it, trust me, I try to take full advantage of my downtime too. I do my ASTy thing and do my DPS and all that. But, we get it, I get it. You are unhappy. I'm unhappy too, I don't like some of these changes. I want my old Lord of Crowns back. I want to have more then one single target attack. But I feel like there's been a big overreaction, from both ends of this, and that the smartest thing to do right now, is wait until we have 5.0 in our own hands, so we can see for ourselves. And, maybe, just maybe, be a little respectful towards each other? I mean, if these changes are truly deal breakers for you. Then fine, I understand and respect that. And I wish you the best in whatever choice you take from there. But, I know from experience, that going into something expecting the worst, will eventually lead to the smallest thing being the worst thing.

I know to some degree I'm being a bit of a hypocrite by calling for respect on both sides. This post is a little talking down to and I'm sorry for that, but I just feel like a more unified and informed front would have a better chance to get SE to maybe listen...we'll see.

Thanks for your time, have a good one.

[Connor]

I don’t mind the changes at all personally, but with the amount of backlash from these changes I’d be surprised if they aren’t already currently retooling all healer’s to be purely oGCD-healing based.

Also (personal opinion) but if you’re so opposed to the idea of just having to heal as a healer instead of maximising personal DPS outputs and minimising healing output, maybe playing another role is an option. Not saying everyone should be Sylphie but do healers really need long complex DPS rotations? Does it really matter in the end how many total DPS buttons a healer has? I get that DPS is currently used to fill healing down time, but is that really the only possible way to fill that downtime?

Lastly, I think a lot of us on both sides of the argument need to accept that the developers are the ones with the final say on the game. They could turn around tomorrow and announce that they’ve removed the healer role entirely and rename it ‘support’ to emphasise its DPS-oriented role requirements. They could just as easily announce the complete removal of all healer DPS abilities and make them use trusts or whatever solo. It wouldn’t go down well, but honestly doubt it’d affect subs enough to make them notice anyway

[gumas]

I get that DPS is currently used to fill healing down time, but is that really the only possible way to fill that downtime?

i always wonder why the dev cant just make a certain skill to buff other skill? say.. whm heal have % chance to make their stone spell instant? assize has % chance to renew your dot, something like that?

that will make even the most passive whm to at least cast their stone when it proc since its instant. and i know some healer afraid to cast it because they afraid in the middle of their cast, someone can take a big hit (in the middle of tank hp going down too) and cause him to panic.

[Mhiro]

I don’t mind the changes at all personally, but with the amount of backlash from these changes I’d be surprised if they aren’t already currently retooling all healer’s to be purely oGCD-healing based.

Also (personal opinion) but if you’re so opposed to the idea of just having to heal as a healer instead of maximising personal DPS outputs and minimising healing output, maybe playing another role is an option. Not saying everyone should be Sylphie but do healers really need long complex DPS rotations? Does it really matter in the end how many total DPS buttons a healer has? I get that DPS is currently used to fill healing down time, but is that really the only possible way to fill that downtime?

Lastly, I think a lot of us on both sides of the argument need to accept that the developers are the ones with the final say on the game. They could turn around tomorrow and announce that they’ve removed the healer role entirely and rename it ‘support’ to emphasise its DPS-oriented role requirements. They could just as easily announce the complete removal of all healer DPS abilities and make them use trusts or whatever solo. It wouldn’t go down well, but honestly doubt it’d affect subs enough to make them notice anyway

This pretty much. They wrote the book. We're just the readers.

[Akor]

Guys guys, healing in this game is too hard, even Yoshi-p sayd this. For 6.0 healers only going to have 1 dmg spells, if any.

[Urthdigger]

I don’t mind the changes at all personally, but with the amount of backlash from these changes I’d be surprised if they aren’t already currently retooling all healer’s to be purely oGCD-healing based.

Also (personal opinion) but if you’re so opposed to the idea of just having to heal as a healer instead of maximising personal DPS outputs and minimising healing output, maybe playing another role is an option. Not saying everyone should be Sylphie but do healers really need long complex DPS rotations? Does it really matter in the end how many total DPS buttons a healer has? I get that DPS is currently used to fill healing down time, but is that really the only possible way to fill that downtime?

Lastly, I think a lot of us on both sides of the argument need to accept that the developers are the ones with the final say on the game. They could turn around tomorrow and announce that they’ve removed the healer role entirely and rename it ‘support’ to emphasise its DPS-oriented role requirements. They could just as easily announce the complete removal of all healer DPS abilities and make them use trusts or whatever solo. It wouldn’t go down well, but honestly doubt it’d affect subs enough to make them notice anyway

Except I'm not opposed to healing on healer? As I stated in my initial post, healing *IS* my first priority. It's not about minimizing healing output, but minimizing GCDs. That means using my heals effectively (Making use of buffs, using more powerful heals or AoE when necessary) and using my oGCD abilities to patch people up in as short a time as possible. I'm trying to be the best healer I can be, which means patching up people really fast, which means having tons of downtime where I may as well deal damage.

At the moment, DPS really is the only effective way to fill downtime. And if they removed all the healer DPS abilities, it would be quite boring unless they retooled how healing and encounters work entirely. And I wouldn't mind if that happened. So long as I'm helping the party I'm happy.

[Mistyregions]

To long didn't read, stand in more AOEs.
Got it.


Jk

[Seoulstar]

I am quite sure this is known already given the fact of the ongoing war between healers who don't DPS and healers who do. But it's nice to have the 1000th thread relating to the topic. Now let's talk about how us AST's are going to be balance bots.