Scholar changes

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I have mained scholar since arr its been my favorite job in the game in heavensward it got even more fun and in stormblood there were issues at launch and its been fixed, but in shadowbringers the ffxiv team seems to have stripped away every aspect that made scholar what it is and made it appeal to me
1 The pets
Embrace can no longer be controlled and you have to weave the skills like enkindle i can accept the skills needing to be weaved but if i cant control embrace why do i even have a pet now it feels like im no longer a pet healer
2 DPS
Another big appeal of scholar was its more complex dps rotation with several dots compared to the other healers and maintaining those while keeping the party alive now were the exact same as whm and ast and thats incredibly disappointing
3 aetherflow
without needing to balance the usage of aetherflow with healing and dealing damage and getting mana back the system has lost all interest it had now i have no reason to not have an excog and soil always up

[Ilenya]

I have mained scholar since arr its been my favorite job in the game in heavensward it got even more fun and in stormblood there were issues at launch and its been fixed, but in shadowbringers the ffxiv team seems to have stripped away every aspect that made scholar what it is and made it appeal to me
1 The pets
Embrace can no longer be controlled and you have to weave the skills like enkindle i can accept the skills needing to be weaved but if i cant control embrace why do i even have a pet now it feels like im no longer a pet healer
2 DPS
Another big appeal of scholar was its more complex dps rotation with several dots compared to the other healers and maintaining those while keeping the party alive now were the exact same as whm and ast and thats incredibly disappointing
3 aetherflow
without needing to balance the usage of aetherflow with healing and dealing damage and getting mana back the system has lost all interest it had now i have no reason to not have an excog and soil always up

1 - Don't forget they nerfed Embrace as well, and if the faerie scales as well as it has the past few expansions *cough*not at all*cough* it'll just be worse. But who knows, maybe they'll fix the scaling!
2 - I'm not going to comment on the DPS. I'm not a fan, and that's all I will say.
3 - Do you...Not keep Excog up on the tanks basically all the time if in combat? Have I been doing this wrong?

[AvenoMatt]

I didn't know that Embrace is no longer auto casted by the fairy just that the potency was nerfed. Hopefully because pets are not longer targetable and just there they don't suffer from the lowered scaling but instead all healing/dps is based off our own healing/dps.

As for Sacred Soil since Shadowflare is gone you no longer have to think about shielding vs dps for it but I personally do think it needs to be nerfed in it's healing potency. AST's CU is now lonely 50 potency and they still have to remain still to keep the shield up where SCH can plop theirs down and now with a trait get 100pot healing from it.

[Eloah]

So something I just noticed, besides all of these threads that keep appearing, take the hint SE, anyways. Something I noticed is how SCH has the lowest single target spell until they reach level 54. Ruin is worth 100, to Malefic's 150, and Stone 2's 200. Our DoT doesnt even make up the full difference once theirs are upgraded. Truthfully, this is me just being sore about losing my DoTs, but there is something there I know it.

[AvenoMatt]

Seems like it could of been an oversight and so hopefully ruin get's buffed for SCH or they give back energy drain preferably with a new name and animation.

[EaMett]

3 - Do you...Not keep Excog up on the tanks basically all the time if in combat? Have I been doing this wrong?

An excog per pull in dungeons makes sense but for raiding if you excog on cooldown (ish) you're pretty much doing it wrong yes. You should cycle through all your other free ogcd options before excog. Including your co healer ogcds since those don't actually have a cost (unlike excog). So that's fey union, rouse + embrace, whispering dawn if the timing is right for party heals, your cohealer's full ogcd options. If none of those are available (on cooldown / healers running a mechanic) or work for the upcoming damage pattern then excog is the go to.

Worth mentioning that by "wrong" I mean you probably have room for improvement. Excog on cooldown is going to be a waste but if you throw excog out 3-4 times in a fight instead of a potential once or twice it's not going to be a big deal. And probably not really worth your peace of mind.

[Fyce]

So something I just noticed, besides all of these threads that keep appearing, take the hint SE, anyways. Something I noticed is how SCH has the lowest single target spell until they reach level 54. Ruin is worth 100, to Malefic's 150, and Stone 2's 200. Our DoT doesnt even make up the full difference once theirs are upgraded. Truthfully, this is me just being sore about losing my DoTs, but there is something there I know it.

Ruin II has been buffed to 200 potency in the media tour build. It's learned at level 38.
The only reason to use Ruin instead of Ruin II when you get it would be because Ruin II cost 200 more MP. But that shouldn't be an issue.

[Endeleon]

1 - Don't forget they nerfed Embrace as well, and if the faerie scales as well as it has the past few expansions *cough*not at all*cough* it'll just be worse. But who knows, maybe they'll fix the scaling!
2 - I'm not going to comment on the DPS. I'm not a fan, and that's all I will say.
3 - Do you...Not keep Excog up on the tanks basically all the time if in combat? Have I been doing this wrong?

If you have excog on all the time you are probably wasting so many of them... So yeah.

[RyuDragnier]

If you have excog on all the time you are probably wasting so many of them... So yeah.

I wouldn't say it's a waste, since it's healing something, at the worst every 45s. If the tank doesn't fall below 50%, you at least helped top them off. It's not like it does nothing anymore when the duration ends.

[Eloah]

Ruin II has been buffed to 200 potency in the media tour build. It's learned at level 38.
The only reason to use Ruin instead of Ruin II when you get it would be because Ruin II cost 200 more MP. But that shouldn't be an issue.

Ruin II is buffed to 200 potency at level 72, which is also when you get Broil III. Bit it was mostly about less DPSing power in low level dungeons prior to getting Broil