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  1. #11
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    It was never directly said BLU was a solo job. It was said they could solo in the overworld, but never said it could solo dungeons or primals. The only mention of soloing was specifically for their special solo content developed solely for BLU, aka Masked Carnivale. I don't know why people got it in their heads that BLU was developed to be a content soloer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post

    Yeah, people called it this because when it was being teased, that's what it was touted as. "Designed for Solo play. Not suitable for Parties"
    Solo play was defined as overworld and masked carnivale, never extreme primals or dungeons.
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    Generika Nameius
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Solo play was defined as overworld and masked carnivale, never extreme primals or dungeons.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/a...7&d=1543360580

    That's a pretty convient fine print you have there, I'm pretty SE and the slides said something different or there was an exclusive showing we all missed apart from the very few it seems.
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    Shaiden Nightfall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdima View Post
    My opinion of blue mage can be summed up by a very commonly used word: Why?

    Whats the point in the end? Why would I want to grind all of this stuff? What do I get after all that work? Besides a shiny 50 next to BLU on my search info that tells everyone that I'm perfectly efficient at spamming one skill over and over for hours.

    My wife and I quickly found out its most definately not a solo class. The best way we found to get the spells was to have one of us use a level 70 and poke the mob untill it used the skill we needed, then kill it. Thats not even mentioning dungeons and trials.


    I guess at the end of the day its fun to use bad breath or spit fish at people, but why?


    I'm sad.
    Im thrilled for this amazing class! it is literally my fav and cannot wait to see what more they do with limited jobs. I can explore the world again and actually pay attention to where enemies live and behave. I get all the power of BLU and my goal isnt just "get gear raid to get more ear snooze" many people just like to whine "whiners of the west" The East loves this class. blu has a lot of potential and cannot wait to see it grow just like eureka.
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  5. #15
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    Rei Makato
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    Quote Originally Posted by guardin View Post
    Im thrilled for this amazing class! it is literally my fav and cannot wait to see what more they do with limited jobs. I can explore the world again and actually pay attention to where enemies live and behave. I get all the power of BLU and my goal isnt just "get gear raid to get more ear snooze" many people just like to whine "whiners of the west" The East loves this class. blu has a lot of potential and cannot wait to see it grow just like eureka.
    Can I get a source on that east loves BLU, ive only heard people say that JP isn't thrilled. Also we asked you on the other thread, what are you doing on BLU?
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    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
    Ultimate Completion Rate ~1% of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to the hardcore raiders"
    Frontline/ Rival Wings/ Hidden Gorge Mount Aquisition ~0.05-1% of active players. Community: "Ugh PVP is so dead in this game, they should stop investing in it"
    Blue Mage Morbol Mount Aquisition ~0.01% of active players. Community: "WoW bLuE mAgE iS sO fUn AnD aCtIvE i CaN't WaIt FoR mOrE lImItEd JoBs"

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    Kalise Relanah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Solo play was defined as overworld and masked carnivale, never extreme primals or dungeons.
    It was also not defined as having a significant portion of its skills locked behind Extreme Primals and Dungeons.

    Nor was it mentioned that Masked Carnivale would be mediocre "End-game" content for them thus promoting any further play on the job being in level 50 duties.

    So, while it's tag of "Solo play" was not defined to include Primals and Dungeons (Also, it was never actually defined that their solo play was Overworld and Masked Carnivale only, they merely mentioned that Masked Carnivale would be solo content. While saying vague statements like the sentence I have in the quote of yours where a slide literally said "Designed for solo play. Not suitable for parties")

    It was kind of implied with the way that it wasn't capable of using DF and that it was being excluded for being "Too overpowered"

    Much like you're getting the implication that all their talks about the job being "Designed for solo play" merely included Overworld and Masked Carnivale.
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    U don’t need any skills for leveling... just a main cls with an instant (aoe-) skill....
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  8. #18
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    ttp://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/a...7&d=1543360580
    It's misleading but let me explain. It IS designed for solo play in that you cannot queue with duty finder with BLU; hence it's a solo job.

    The translation is finicky, but you are assuming that the phrase "designed for solo play" means BLU is capable of completing party content as a solo player. But really, they mean it in the literal sense:BLU is not designed for party play and thus cannot queue for duty finder or roulettes.
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  9. #19
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    Xanthos Xenstrider
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ElexDestruction View Post
    I no everyone has been calling blue mage a solo job but it really isn't. The current endgame content for blue mage is the masked carnival. Unfortunately if you intend to do the bosses the intended way <not blowing them up> you will need the use of certain blue mage spells that can not be soloed as a lv 50 blue. You have to find a group and get the spell. I enjoy playing this job but most of the time I feel like a little lalafell with a tin cup in duty finder , holding my cup up to duty finder saying " Excuse me sir, care to spare some help?" I really enjoy the masked tower and think they had the right idea with it. You can learn some spells off enemy's in it and wish they would have went more in this direction for learning spells.

    Care to share your thoughts.
    I completely agree with this. I don't understand how they claimed that this is a solo job with minigame aspects, when in fact you cannot get majority of the skills without some assistance from higher leveled players? They also claimed that this job will be OP because of the spells they can learn. It's FAR from being OP. Most of the skills are useless and their damage is laughable. It could have easily been implemented correctly as a full job.
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xruptor View Post
    I completely agree with this. I don't understand how they claimed that this is a solo job with minigame aspects, when in fact you cannot get majority of the skills without some assistance from higher leveled players? They also claimed that this job will be OP because of the spells they can learn. It's FAR from being OP. Most of the skills are useless and their damage is laughable. It could have easily been implemented correctly as a full job.
    Agree with this one totally. I did solo a few dungeons, when i was like twice the level req and unsync'd but nothing 50+ I think at 50 i was able to solo cutters cry for the voice moves, but still I didnt see anything in the job that wouldve made it untweakable for party play. Choose so many skills? Most of them had the same potency, even when combo'd with just a different DR status debuff. BB for example. ok? 6 seconds. ok maybe 8 or 9 then resisted? Shield bash from pld is more effective than that.
    Besides the 1000 needles spam for 30 ish levels of levelling, i still thought it was fun. But the fact you need to clear ex primals to get any of the better skills? really?

    Then again with the illusion of having a choice of the skills meaning anything, as said early most similar potency until combo'd, and the class quests REQUIRE you to obtain certain skills to finish them, how is it any different than every other job learning the skill AFTER the quest?

    Sadly, the best solo content they couldve ever added for BLU wouldve been to allow you to get a relic weapon, if you wanted a weapon with more than 1 attack power
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    Last edited by ADVSS; 06-05-2019 at 10:55 PM.

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