Healer design in Shadowbringers

[Hustensaft]

We finally got an interview with some healer focused questions. Not much, and there are many unanswered questions, but it's the most we've gotten so far.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...uMgaL704g/edit

Healer oriented bit starts page 4 of the document.

They design a healer as a healer with nothing to heal...

... unless they magically decided to doublee or triple outgoing group damage

[DiznypKC]

We finally got an interview with some healer focused questions. Not much, and there are many unanswered questions, but it's the most we've gotten so far.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...uMgaL704g/edit

Healer oriented bit starts page 4 of the document.

That definitely wasn’t much of an answer at all, at least for what we really want to know.

So they wanted to redefine the role of the healer? That needs to be defined in the combat encounter designs, and not the jobs’ kit. Maybe there will be some more incoming damage but I doubt it will be enough to justify these changes. We’re going to be bored AF.

[Ceasaria]

These questions are unfortunetely not helpful at all.
It's like they are welcoming these changes, so Yoshida must think he did a good job.

[Shalan]

I agree, they're not helpful.
But so far I think that interview is the only one with questions asked about healers. If you look at the other interviews (which I'll put under this post if you're interested) there weren't any healer oriented questions asked at all. Another outright asks a question and states "...setting aside healers..." and never returns to healers.
This is all we have so far as official statements on their direction, so I figured it'd be nice to share,


4gamer's Shadowbringers Media Tour Interview
^"...setting aside healers..." interview

Famitsu's Shadowbringers Media Tour Interview about Job Changes and the Trust System

Dengeki's Shadowbringers Media Tour Interview


The lack of questions and any healer mains at the Media Tour really has me bummed. Feels like this role is being purposefully ignored sometimes.

[Deceptus]

I find it funny that the attitude of "If you want to DPS play a DPS!" doesn't apply to tanks yet somehow does apply to healers.

I agree, they're not helpful.
But so far I think that interview is the only one with questions asked about healers. If you look at the other interviews (which I'll put under this post if you're interested) there weren't any healer oriented questions asked at all. Another outright asks a question and states "...setting aside healers..." and never returns to healers.
This is all we have so far as official statements on their direction, so I figured it'd be nice to share,


4gamer's Shadowbringers Media Tour Interview
^"...setting aside healers..." interview

Famitsu's Shadowbringers Media Tour Interview about Job Changes and the Trust System

Dengeki's Shadowbringers Media Tour Interview


The lack of questions and any healer mains at the Media Tour really has me bummed. Feels like this role is being purposefully ignored sometimes.

Same. I've noticed a distinct lack of healer questions in almost every interview. So either no one is asking questions because no one they've given interviews to plays a healer (SE's fault for not checking their interviewers). Or a more conspiratorial option, that they're asking interviewers to not talk about healers right now.

[WaxSw]

I agree, they're not helpful.
But so far I think that interview is the only one with questions asked about healers. If you look at the other interviews (which I'll put under this post if you're interested) there weren't any healer oriented questions asked at all. Another outright asks a question and states "...setting aside healers..." and never returns to healers.
This is all we have so far as official statements on their direction, so I figured it'd be nice to share,


4gamer's Shadowbringers Media Tour Interview
^"...setting aside healers..." interview

Famitsu's Shadowbringers Media Tour Interview about Job Changes and the Trust System

Dengeki's Shadowbringers Media Tour Interview


The lack of questions and any healer mains at the Media Tour really has me bummed. Feels like this role is being purposefully ignored sometimes.

I honestly love this "[...]They use their defensive buffs including their invuln when they need to, and while performing their tank duties, they also want to do as much DPS as possible. This should undoubtedly be part of their motivation", So tanks are allowed to DPS if they want while performing their tank duties but healers can't or what? What should we do once the party doesn't need healing? Get bored to death smashing 1 button?

This triggers me too much, is like he was saying "Hey tanks/dps have fun and optimize your playstyle, you healers can watch them enjoy the game"

[Risvertasashi]

We finally got an interview with some healer focused questions. Not much, and there are many unanswered questions, but it's the most we've gotten so far.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...uMgaL704g/edit

Healer oriented bit starts page 4 of the document.

Reading the full response to that - I think if SE really wants to do that, they need to seriously up the incoming damage even if "casual" content like dungeons, alliance raids, and so on.

I very much doubt SE will but... come on, how they can not see that healers DPSing is the natural outcome of extremely low healing requirements...

[Deceptus]

Reading the full response to that - I think if SE really wants to do that, they need to seriously up the incoming damage even if "casual" content like dungeons, alliance raids, and so on.

I very much doubt SE will but... come on, how they can not see that healers DPSing is the natural outcome of extremely low healing requirements...

Because it's becoming more and more apparent that SE has no idea how healers play or what to do with them.

[tikiwiki]

Because it's becoming more and more apparent that SE has no idea how healers play or what to do with them.

i thought for awhile the fun dance they achieved may have been on accident at this point i feel pretty convinced on that

[Truen]

For the last 6 years healers and tanks in xiv have done as much as they can to minimize doing what lost them damage and in shadowbringers SE has embraced tank damage with things like removal of aggro combos and no damage penalty when in tank stance while completely rejecting healer dps with the removal of our dps options. Even if SE were to make healers gcd heal more i would not call that interesting since healing tools in xiv are incredibly basic and boring and it would strip away what has made XIV healing interesting which has been the dance between trying to keep people alive while maintaining our damage.

This is Yoshi's fault. Under his leadership the push to keep trimming down jobs and simplifying them will continue in future updates too. Just listen to the man speak. If there's not a change in SE leadership this is only going to get worse. Tanks and/or DPS are next. They're going to get the same treatment healers just got. Eventually every class is going to be cut-down to the point to where AI can play the job you do just as well as you do it...ie: The Trust System.