Kicked from dungeon for not following the way others want you to play

[VillainQueen]

I've never kicked someone because they played bad. You have to really play abysmal, like on purpose bad and the party has to wipe a lot for me to get annoyed. And for normal casual content the ideal rotation isn't needed so I'm with OP on that. Didn't sound justified. Some people have to learn to relax and live with not optimal playstils. If you can't deal with it, only play with your static. It's not like you can't give others tipps, I think you should but at the end of the day people just want to have fun and not getting berated and kicked for not playing the optimal way.

[Jybril]

With the way some people in this topic is acting to one another, I would just kick because your attitudes are just terrible.
OP is even talking about a normal regular ol' dungeon at that where it's so easy
you don't really need top tier performance play...You guys need a break or something...
I mean Jimney Christmas lol.

With how angry everyone seems to be, some might need a little break before expac.

Why are you all trying to slash each other throat.

Lol! That's what I'm saying.

[Jennah]

Looking on the Lodestone, OP is wearing 6 pieces of gear from the Aery and using the title Nidhogg Slayer ... so I guess there was a happy ending?
OP, if you read this - I expect the tank was correct that you were doing less damage than you could be.
If you were doing 80% of your possible damage, he was very much in the wrong to kick you. Below max level, any reasonable performance should be fine, and the most you should get if playing 'wrong' is some advice.
If you were doing 20% of your possible damage, he was very much in the right - it likely even would have been necessary to kick you to pass Nidhogg's dps check, if the other 3 players weren't skilled enough to cover for you.
It's also possible the tank (or you) was just being a jerk, and performance had nothing to do with the kick.

[Vahlnir]

I've never kicked someone because they played bad. You have to really play abysmal, like on purpose bad and the party has to wipe a lot for me to get annoyed. And for normal casual content the ideal rotation isn't needed so I'm with OP on that. Didn't sound justified. Some people have to learn to relax and live with not optimal playstils. If you can't deal with it, only play with your static. It's not like you can't give others tipps, I think you should but at the end of the day people just want to have fun and not getting berated and kicked for not playing the optimal way.

We are only getting half the story, maybe less than that. I'd be willing to bet we're getting less than half. But we can't really do much but speculate as to the events leading to their kick without all the facts. Most of the time when a vote to kick is initiated, it took a lot to get to that point. Not always, but most of the time.

[Ayer2015]

Care to explain why? They qualified their statement; saying this only applies to someone underperforming. While that is subjective, we can readily assume they mean bad enough it's noticeable. Why should they, I or anyone carry say, a BLM who is getting out dps'd by the tank and healer, through a dungeon? This is especially true if they'd offered advice and ignore it.

I get it. DF is supposed to be a crap shoot. But that doesn't mean we have to just accept every ice mage we see. If you want to carry them, by all means. Go right ahead. No one else is obligated though.

Simply put, you are using a random party formation feature in a game which matchs players of varying skill levels. This is a known going into content using duty finder. If a person expects and requires a certain level of play, make a pre-made.
Also, you would not know a dps player has output lower than a healer or tank without a dps meter..... which is against the ToS and simply given a blind eye.

[van_arn]

Simply put, you are using a random party formation feature in a game which matchs players of varying skill levels. This is a known going into content using duty finder. If a person expects and requires a certain level of play, make a pre-made.
Also, you would not know a dps player has output lower than a healer or tank without a dps meter..... which is against the ToS and simply given a blind eye.

And if the party decided they don't want that random that doesn't pull their own weight, it is beautifully justified to kick the underperformer to the curb.

It'll be even better in shadowbringers where this underperformer can be exiled to trust runs, sandboxed away from the parties that would kick them.

[Vahlnir]

Also, you would not know a dps player has output lower than a healer or tank without a dps meter..... which is against the ToS and simply given a blind eye.

A dps meter is not needed to know that someone is underperforming, though they'd have to be really, really underperforming to truly notice.

[HyoMinPark]

Simply put, you are using a random party formation feature in a game which matchs players of varying skill levels. This is a known going into content using duty finder. If a person expects and requires a certain level of play, make a pre-made.
Also, you would not know a dps player has output lower than a healer or tank without a dps meter..... which is against the ToS and simply given a blind eye.

AOEing large trash packs should be a standard even for randomly matched parties. But getting DPS to AOE is worse than pulling teeth it seems.

That said, if a healer is spamming Holy/Gravity/Miasma II while a DPS is single-targeting, you don't need a damage meter to know that the healer is pulling the weight here. It's simple math at that point.

[Ayer2015]

Clearly we had a difference of opinion on the matter. Such is life.

[kidalutz]

it only takes 2 votes to have a kick pass