Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[SturmChurro]

I hate it when ppl insult furries when they most likely not even know who they are lol. You should NEVER suffer for your sexual preferences, regardless of which they are (unless they are children)

Wow zeylos I didn't know you were capable of making burns like that. I'm proud of you.

I've pointed this out before because I find this childish animosity directed at HROTHGAR super strange at this point.

Like, its over. They got in, your head canon bunny bois didn't. Why root for them to fail? What, so that you can think "I told you so!" And do a at the devs who will never read your post? What good would any bad for HROTHGAR do for your cause?

Like the hair thing. People don't care to point out the Viera lack of hair choices but yeah ... It's gonna get mighty same facey and boring mighty fast if they only have what they have rn. But HROTHGAR are next level confusing on wth is gonna happen there.

You should be hoping and praying these beast get everything they deserve and more ... Cause if the devs can't bother to give these 2 races these choices then how likely are they to bother making even more character models after them?

You should hope people embrace them so that your choice can piggy back on female HROTHGAR really.

It's true. If they can't even do hair to make up for the lack of headgear, then male viera is definitely in trouble. I'm sure adding hair is a lot easier than a complete new gender with a unique head, and body to fit everything onto again!

[Gwenorai]

When I just want the long hair. Please, just give me the long hair. Please, can we have a dreadlock/braids version that ISN'T genderlocked?

[zeylos]

I've pointed this out before because I find this childish animosity directed at HROTHGAR super strange at this point.

Like, its over. They got in, your head canon bunny bois didn't. Why root for them to fail? What, so that you can think "I told you so!" And do a at the devs who will never read your post? What good would any bad for HROTHGAR do for your cause?

Like the hair thing. People don't care to point out the Viera lack of hair choices but yeah ... It's gonna get mighty same facey and boring mighty fast if they only have what they have rn. But HROTHGAR are next level confusing on wth is gonna happen there.

You should be hoping and praying these beast get everything they deserve and more ... Cause if the devs can't bother to give these 2 races these choices then how likely are they to bother making even more character models after them?

You should hope people embrace them so that your choice can piggy back on female HROTHGAR really.

Female viera will most likely be very popular (mostly because it's like playing Beyonce with bunny ears, and we all know how popular Beyonce is)

Male hrotgar won't be played that much in Japan (ppl there dont like bestial races) but here in the West, I'd guess that they'll be 4th or 5th place, simply because theyre a bestial race (could have been done muuuch better with things such as a 4 legs walking animation, better customizatio which I hope they eventually get, etc)

Male viera would crash Japan. To put it simple, it's where yaoi was born. In Japan, a bunnyboi would be worshipped by lots of players. In the west, they could compete with catbois, and I'd say give them 3-2nd place (after hyur and competing with male au ra)

Female hrotgar it just depends. They can do her right, and she wont be that popular, or they can do female miqote 3, and she's be decently popular

[zeylos]

I will edit this since I hit post limit.
I want to ask of you to please, stop putting words on my mouth that are simply not true. I have shown support for female hrotgar and I do want them, but I'm simply not as vocal about them. You'll go and say 'But you say that they shouldnt bother!' to which I please ask you to read my post. I was simply asking SE to making female hrotgar better than the males, which are dissapointing, to say the least. As for me saying that male viera could come before female hrotgar? Did you ppl even bother to read y post entirely? I stated that I do NOT want this to happen, and that I'd rather wait for both to be released, but after SE going back on their so called values countless times (No genderlocked races, the 'incredible' amount of customization fro male hrotgar, which sadly is incredibly bad, the housing system they talked about, and a looooong etc im not going to go over) they could very well do only 1 of them, or release one first and the other one later. Then, I'll ask of you to pelase stop trying to engage on fights with me every third post ya'll write, since I'll from now on simply ignore those posts and move on, in order to keep this thread from becoming the reality show you are all trying to make it to be. I'll finally ask of you to pelase, stop attacking other persons directly, and I hope that you all have a nice day.

[Lauront]

One thing I want people to think about. If the Male Hrothy are not as popular as the dev's hope, then they will not be making the female versions. Which means they will not be making the Male versions of Viera. It would not be worth their time and resources to make the females and it would not be fair to the select who want them if they only implemented the Male buns. So you guys better hope that Male Hroth are popular.

Doesn’t necessarily follow. It’s more that if both under perform and/or 5.0 under performs that it may come to that. The latter is the bigger factor. Ultimately what they need is for the race to be played enough to recoup the costs on it, not necessarily for it to be popular. That could, for example, be at a figure just above roegadyn males; it may be higher or lower.

No idea where it sits without access to their internal metrics. However, if they foresaw one of the two being a decently profitable addition I doubt they’d forsake it just because the other isn’t.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Oh and btw, you complain about ppl hating on male hrotgar, but you have absolutely no problem on hating on female viera lol

And you've already implied twice you'd prefer if they held back on Female Hroth so that Male Viera comes out sooner.

You have no moral ground to demand respect or call out people on "hating" Viera, when several times you've showed your true colors: that you want mViera at all costs, and you just support fHroth for likes and not looking bad.

[Lauront]

Oh and btw, you complain about ppl hating on male hrotgar, but you have absolutely no problem on hating on female viera lol

That individual is incapable of getting over their biases, so they don’t understand where the statistical trend on the matter lies and thus you get bluster and hot air like that. It’s obviously true that we don’t know for certain how much the new races will be played but we have current trends in both XIV and other MMOs from which we can extrapolate how it might shape up. Once 5.1 (possibly a bit later) sets in we will get a clearer picture.

I honestly wouldn’t bother with someone whose intention is not to discuss this in good faith but simply to gloat over some perceived reality that has yet to come to fruition.

[Brightmore]

I think that is very SAD that we all fell in this rabbit hole (hue!).
We started the thread asking for diversity and in shame we hit each other here.
Both races are important as a community.
Both are welcome, because bring light and life to the game, renewing old players and bringing new ones.
Hrothgar are amazing. I was one that when was announced think of it as "meh!" because I was excited to see how they projected male viera. But, when benchmark was released I created one which I love and will play.
See?
The existence of the race makes people play it.
It's not being unique that makes them singular. It's the value for the player.
One being not so much played do not shut the door for another, and one that is most played is not more important than the other.
The diversity is the key for a rich Realm.

Here's the link for Kotaku's interview with Yoshida, he talks with a bright soul about diversity and respect:

https://kotaku.com/we-took-a-bold-st...ect-1835098319

PS.: in this link he refers to EB outfit to be gender free.

[Lauront]

To be fair, how well received a race is is entirely down to how appealing they make it. Give it stiff animations and bad proportions and you may well doom it from the start. So if they are contemplating adding the missing genders, they need to be very careful about their design. I’d also hope it does not take priority over more comprehensive graphics and texture improvements, which to my mind are of greater priority.

With that said, although I don’t intend to play either new pick, I hope they do well along with 5.0, if only so we don’t see them become another money sink and so SE has an incentive to invest more in the game. They’re both good additions, so they should get played at decent rates.

[Berret_Snow]

I've pointed this out before because I find this childish animosity directed at HROTHGAR super strange at this point.

Like, its over. They got in, your head canon bunny bois didn't. Why root for them to fail? What, so that you can think "I told you so!" And do a at the devs who will never read your post? What good would any bad for HROTHGAR do for your cause?

Like the hair thing. People don't care to point out the Viera lack of hair choices but yeah ... It's gonna get mighty same facey and boring mighty fast if they only have what they have rn. But HROTHGAR are next level confusing on wth is gonna happen there.

You should be hoping and praying these beast get everything they deserve and more ... Cause if the devs can't bother to give these 2 races these choices then how likely are they to bother making even more character models after them?

You should hope people embrace them so that your choice can piggy back on female HROTHGAR really.

I mean since they were announced people have been tearing down Hrothgar and Roegadyn "No one plays them, it's homophobia that I didn't get my twink bunny boys!" We get it, you're upset that you didn't get your bunny boys, it sucks, but there's no reason to tear apart other players who enjoy Hrothgar and Reogadyn. I started supporting Male Viera but at this point I honestly hope they just don't get released to spite everyone tearing the Bara dad races apart.
Of course as soon as you call them out they act like the victims huh?