Using autism and cancer in comments and as a derogatory term...

[Crystal_Raven]

So that makes it ok? That means some random stranger is exactly like your best friend and can joke about it? That's like saying "I can't be racist because I have a friend who is black".

Some might joke about it and others might not like it. You should know that you should error on the side that someone might take offence and just not use derogatory terms around people you don't personally know.

Other conversations aren't your business. If you get offended, then leave. In the majority of cases people aren't trying to offend anyone, if you get offended anyway, you have the option to leave. And yet, seems a lot of FF14 players choose to remain, report and make angry forum rants about how people are so rude my god the humanity is ending because people I'm upset at something someone said! The apocalypse is coming!

I mean, once you voice those conversations in a public setting like a chat channel, they're definitely policable. that's almost entirely why they changed the policy however many months ago.

Thank you for confirming the best option is to hide the chat when playing FF14 and using other communication platforms to communicate. It's quite sad how the feelings of the few end up causing the many to cut off communication entirely.

At the same time, also thank you for confirming that you believe having a community where the many refuse to communicate with the tools provided by the game because some random might get offended. That's a healthy community.

I hope the sarcasm isn't lost on you.

[Racen]

Other conversations aren't your business. If you get offended, then leave. In the majority of cases people aren't trying to offend anyone, if you get offended anyway, you have the option to leave. And yet, seems a lot of FF14 players choose to remain, report and make angry forum rants about how people are so rude my god the humanity is ending because people I'm upset at something someone said! The apocalypse is coming!


Thank you for confirming the best option is to hide the chat when playing FF14 and using other communication platforms to communicate. It's quite sad how the feelings of the few end up causing the many to cut off communication entirely.

At the same time, also thank you for confirming that you believe having a community where the many refuse to communicate with the tools provided by the game because some random might get offended. That's a healthy community.

I hope the sarcasm isn't lost on you.

if people keep getting offended when you group with them and communicate, maybe the problem isn't the other people, maybe it's you. if anyone is the "few" in this situation, it's people like you. millions of people party up and have wonderful experiences and conversations with others in this game, there's problem a reason you keep having bad experiences with communicating with other people.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

if people keep getting offended when you group with them and communicate, maybe the problem isn't the other people, maybe it's you. if anyone is the "few" in this situation, it's people like you. millions of people party up and have wonderful experiences and conversations with others in this game, there's problem a reason you keep having bad experiences with communicating with other people.

If I'm talking the same way I've been talking for over 2 years and now suddenly people have an issue with it, maybe the problem isn't me, maybe it's people getting offended with things that aren't offensive.

[Krojack]

If I'm talking the same way I've been talking for over 2 years and now suddenly people have an issue with it, maybe the problem isn't me, maybe it's people getting offended with things that aren't offensive.

Sounds like something someone from the 1960's would say when they use to call a set group of people the "n" word. Times change and what you might call someone today may not be acceptable tomorrow.

[Wynn_Storm]

Sounds like something someone from the 1960's would say when they use to call a set group of people the "n" word. Times change and what you might call someone today may not be acceptable tomorrow.

Another person misconstruing something to twist it around to fit their agenda.

Its no secret that people today are much more sensitive than they used to be.

And really? Comparing what he said to segregation? That's just grasping at straws.

People shouldn't need to censor themselves because other people can't handle it. Especially when the person isn't even insulting that person. They are just indirectly getting offended for no reason.

I just don't understand the argument you are trying to make.

EDIT : Just to be clear there are obvious exceptions, but i guess i feel i should list them since someone my try to misconstrue my words.

If someone is openly being racist, or homophobic or whatever. Even if indirectly, then that is different. But if its something harmless like "That fight was cancer" "This post gave me aids" its just a dark humored joke. And sure not everyone shares the same humor. But that's no reason to get bent out of shape and whine about it. There are many tools to stop you from seeing things you don't like.

Use them.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Sounds like something someone from the 1960's would say when they use to call a set group of people the "n" word. Times change and what you might call someone today may not be acceptable tomorrow.

Except no one said anything about directly insulting anyone.

Times change... in 2 years...

[Alucard135]

if people keep getting offended when you group with them and communicate, maybe the problem isn't the other people, maybe it's you. if anyone is the "few" in this situation, it's people like you. millions of people party up and have wonderful experiences and conversations with others in this game, there's problem a reason you keep having bad experiences with communicating with other people.

The same can be said about someone getting offended by every group they communicate with. And in the situation of using the term cancer, those that are offended are the "few". Need proof? do a simple 100 random roulettes and say "this fight/dungeon is cancerous" and see how many gets offended by the term being used.

[JowyAtreides]

The same can be said about someone getting offended by every group they communicate with. And in the situation of using the term cancer, those that are offended are the "few". Need proof? do a simple 100 random roulettes and say "this fight/dungeon is cancerous" and see how many gets offended by the term being used.

To be fair, there is a difference of definition between "this gave me cancer" and "this is cancerous", because no, this fight/dungeon did not "give you cancer" and it's not funny to say it. To say a "fight/dungeon is cancerous" is actually probably a reasonable summary and there is no reason for anyone to be annoyed by it.

While insult will always sucks. Words having several meaning isn't new and we can't do much about it.
You can't change the way a language is spoken.

I think you will find there are laws in many countries that disagree with you. I can only speak from my knowledge of European countries but in specifically the UK, derogatory expressions toward someone's colour, race, disability, nationality, ethnic or national origin, religion, gender or sexual orientation is forbidden.

Autism falls under the above criteria.

This I believe is not the case in the US?

Hence one of many reasons we have different data centers and should probably extend to forums, otherwise we will have divisive threads.

Which is a shame, because a global community has so many benefits.

[Crystal_Raven]

if people keep getting offended when you group with them and communicate, maybe the problem isn't the other people, maybe it's you. if anyone is the "few" in this situation, it's people like you. millions of people party up and have wonderful experiences and conversations with others in this game, there's problem a reason you keep having bad experiences with communicating with other people.

I'm talking the same way I have in every MMO for the past 10 years of playing MMOs...no one's really had a problem with it until now. People are a lot easier to offend nowadays, they get upset at everything. Maybe the problem is that people are overly-sensitive these days.

If you want to see it for yourself, there's a small experiment you can run, in every trial or dungeon you run, at the end say "This boss is cancer", watch how many people get upset by it.

Hint: Very few will. The majority won't really care.