Why Energy Drain is so important for SCH gameplay

[Selova]

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I dont have a personal view of how I think healers should play or be designed but obviously SE does. Otherwise they wouldn't have ripped those abilities from scholar and redesigned them for summoner.


We've already known that they want to break scholar away from summoner and this was obviously how they decided to fo about it.

Guess we will have to see how many stacks get wasted with the new damage design changes and pure healer vision that SE has for ShB.

[Freerider]

Yeah, but scholar seems to have the most mp intensive kit. You can't put us all at the same mp give us higher cost skills and say here have fun. It will get frustrating very quickly. That's why I want energy drain back at least.

[Pseudochrome]

I dont have a personal view of how I think healers should play or be designed but obviously SE does. Otherwise they wouldn't have ripped those abilities from scholar and redesigned them for summoner.

They aren't going to give scholar's back those abilities because it made zero sense for scholars to have them to begin with. I'm honestly hoping the increased damage from mobs and bosses is substantial, if only to get rid of the complaints that a HEALER is ruined because they lost DPS abilities. It blows my mind how people can't understand how ridiculous this sounds.

i mean if you say so i guess. these are strong opinions for someone who doesnt have a personal view though

[Rubiss]

Simply spam lustrate with all those extra stacks you will have as you learn the encounter to avoid wasting fairy gauge. Truly this is amazing design philosophy.

[Sighearth]

There are lot of people currently saying that this change is ok because the healing intensity will go up so we won't have many stacks to burn either way. I strongly disagree and here is why. I will take 1 of my logs in Weapons Refrain (Ultimate) as an example in a 16:11 fight lets say I used 16 aetherflows (without the trait that will go away in ShB) which translate into 48 stacks. I had 21 ED casts. That means 43% of my stacks goes into ED, similarly in UCOB was 40%. I don't think SE will ramp up the healing intensity more than ultimate fights. So even in the highest difficulty you burn ~ 40% of your stacks.

If you account for the quickened aetherflow trait in that scenario ~ 1/3 of my stacks goes to ED. So if you can use 1/3 of your aetherflow in a dps oGCD in the most difficult contents in the game, I can only imagine how much stacks will be sitting doing nothing. Rest assured I play super safe and I don't even have good dps numbers on those fights ( that number could be way higher).

[Rubiss]

There are lot of people currently saying that this change is ok because the healing intensity will go up so we won't have many stacks to burn either way. I strongly disagree and here is why. I will take 1 of my logs in Weapons Refrain (Ultimate) as an example in a 16:11 fight I used 16 aetherflows which translate into 48 stacks. I had 21 ED casts. That means 43% of my stacks goes into ED, similarly in UCOB was 40%. I don't think SE will ramp up the healing intensity more than a ultimate fights. So even in the highest difficulty you burn ~ 40% of your stacks, I can only imagine what will happen in ShB.

Nah, SE is clearly going to make dungeon and raid encounters more healing intensive than UWU and UCOB. It's painfully obvious. Everything is fine. You won't have to spam Lustrates or simply not use Aetherflow before refreshing it. Won't happen. Every last stack of Aetherflow will be used to heal, even at the 99th percentile. Definitely.

[Bonbori]

It's... disappointing. I gravitated towards Scholar specifically because on top of a flexible, tactical toolkit, it also had a more involved dps rotation than the other healers. In fact... it was the only one whose gameplay even included something resembling a rotation. Set-and-forgetting a DoT and spamming a single button isn't one.

Oh well... I still like fairies so I'm still going to play SCH. I'm just going to have to find a new way to have fun and stay engaged, hmm...

Oh! Here's one! Who's up for a game of "how long can the party survive while I run a Broil/Art of War spam macro and take my hands off the keyboard"?

[Freerider]

Oh! Here's one! Who's up for a game of "how long can the party survive while I run a Broil/Art of War spam macro and take my hands off the keyboard"?

Figured I'd just spam push up emote while I wait for damage.

[Deceptus]

I dont have a personal view of how I think healers should play or be designed but obviously SE does. Otherwise they wouldn't have ripped those abilities from scholar and redesigned them for summoner.

Problem is, they haven't shared that vision with their players. That's why we're in this mess to begin with. Everyone is speculating. It could all end with a statement from SE.

[Sighearth]

I was thinking about something , refresh is gone, mana shift is gone and ED is gone. Lucid is now 60s but we on average have gcds that cost more relative to other healers. If you pop lucid and something bad happens and you die, thats it you are done. No one will give you mana and you cant ED some mana back.