Why was Living Dead not removed?

[Bhearil]

Problem with LD is the resources and atention it requires. With Holmgang you only need to burn some minor instant cds and everything is fine even if the War is not at full hp since theres no tankbusters back to back. Meanwhile with LD either you have a whm saving Benediction, or healers have to stop what they doing and spam heal the DRK since you cant rely on critical heals to bring its hp to full, burning even more instants, or being forced to cast normal heals

[Dalmacus]

I think the whole point of invulnerability is to at least help to take off some burden from the healers like hallowed ground and holmgang did well. Living dead however adds extra burden to healers because if you don't heal enough past the damage the DRK received the DRK dies.

[DemonicNeko]

Problem with LD is the resources and atention it requires. With Holmgang you only need to burn some minor instant cds and everything is fine even if the War is not at full hp since theres no tankbusters back to back. Meanwhile with LD either you have a whm saving Benediction, or healers have to stop what they doing and spam heal the DRK since you cant rely on critical heals to bring its hp to full, burning even more instants, or being forced to cast normal heals

I think the whole point of invulnerability is to at least help to take off some burden from the healers like hallowed ground and holmgang did well. Living dead however adds extra burden to healers because if you don't heal enough past the damage the DRK received the DRK dies.

I do not know why people say LD is fine. Bhearil and Dalmacus is pointing out it flaws. We are entering an expansion where we will be wiping at .01%. Which normally happens when healers are oom. LD only waste MP and not saves it like the Warrior/Paladin invulnerability. It puts a lot of stress on the raid when the dark knight is telling everyone on mic. I am in Walking Dead phase. Not only do they need to rush expensive MP heals and pop powerful CD. If they fail to keep you alive. They have to pop more powerful CD and waste more mp. Rezzing you and bring you up to full hp.

I understand they do not want to slap hallowed ground or holmgang on a DRK. Yet they have so many different options to give a dark knight an invulnerability that fit the dark knight lore.

[Lyth]

I do not know why people say LD is fine.

The majority of people who claim that "LD is fine" are people on other jobs (mostly WAR) who don't have any regular interaction with the ability. These are the same sort of people who will turn around and complain about Onslaught not being broken enough with the same breath. But with DRK, it suddenly becomes "you've been dealing with it for four years, why change it now?"

Buffs to Holmgang aside, though, there's another reason why this needs to be looked at. Convalescence is gone (it's now packaged in as a WAR exclusive). HP totals are going to go up yet again. Nobody is going to want to heal through this nonsense.

[Hierro]

The majority of people who claim that "LD is fine" are people on other jobs (mostly WAR) who don't have any regular interaction with the ability. These are the same sort of people who will turn around and complain about Onslaught not being broken enough with the same breath. But with DRK, it suddenly becomes "you've been dealing with it for four years, why change it now?"

Buffs to Holmgang aside, though, there's another reason why this needs to be looked at. Convalescence is gone (it's now packaged in as a WAR exclusive). HP totals are going to go up yet again. Nobody is going to want to heal through this nonsense.

And what would you say to the player who mains both jobs and plays with each skills on a regular basis in relevant content? Would you still try to passively-aggressively invalidate their opinion then?

[Freyyy]

And what would you say to the player who mains both jobs and plays with each skills on a regular basis in relevant content? Would you still try to passively-aggressively invalidate their opinion then?

Well these people aren't claiming that LD is fine

[Hierro]

Well these people aren't claiming that LD is fine

Ha, got 'eem.

[Lyth]

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Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. Put in in the thread, a drop amidst the sea of people who play the job and hate it.

And the next time, just drop the "passive", and you'll read the energy in the room more accurately.

[Hierro]

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. Put in in the thread, a drop amidst the sea of people who play the job and hate it.

And the next time, just drop the "passive", and you'll read the energy in the room more accurately.

Stay mad, then.