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    Quote Originally Posted by Mireille View Post
    Sorry double post, but I only saw this after I posted.

    Thanks, that was really interesting to see, and it does make sense out of some of the things I was hearing in game. Aside from the Company stuff I don't see a lot on the future direction of the game that leads me to think Tanaka was taking it in a very different direction. It does show that were were going to have some of this a long time ago.

    The concept of player companies and company ships was something I was really looking forward too, and its a shame we won't see free companies till 2.0. I can understand it make sense to rework the underlying structure of the game first, but it would be a type of content that the players could really sink their teeth into. It would give the players something to build for themselves outside of grinding a character while the devs work on the game itself.

    Whatever else people may say the world design does include some areas that really speak for the possibility of epic FF content. A lot was done right in this game from the start, and it's a shame that what didn't work was so problematic for SE.
    Yup. Not only the current game is already very different, but the paths were also completely different. This is why i do think reviving Tanaka's FFXIV would be a great thing to do. It's just like comparing FFXII and FFTA...they share the very same lore (Ivalice Alliance) and still they both are great regardless of FFTA2 being spin-off or FFXII being in the main serie.

    Hopefully more ppl will support this too so in march, when Tanaka is done with FFXI rework, we can have him back to his FFXIV as spin-off game ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApplePie View Post
    Check his/her history. His/her last history was in April. Why do you think he/she NEVER responds when I ask him why he/she judges people for disliking the game when he/she him/herself doesn't play. Move along whiteknight.

    Ironic he/she can ask that one person if that adventurer thinks the fights are fun without even attempting the fights once, but someone else asking him the same question gets questioned.
    I suspect Jennestia's "alter ego" that she refers to on Mysidia is Zheru Estellia (Forum Name = Elexia), a Level 1 MRD with 1100 posts on the forum...

    I suspect Jennestia's actual character is Elexia Higashikuni on Rabanastre (of course) who is played occasionally, looks like interest picked up after patch 1.19 and waned again, but these forums are ever interesting right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captainpicard View Post
    I suspect Jennestia's "alter ego" that she refers to on Mysidia is Zheru Estellia (Forum Name = Elexia), a Level 1 MRD with 1100 posts on the forum...

    I suspect Jennestia's actual character is Elexia Higashikuni on Rabanastre (of course) who is played occasionally, looks like interest picked up after patch 1.19 and waned again, but these forums are ever interesting right.
    Scary thought:

    You could be Jennestia and not know it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mireille View Post
    It's normal for a manager to take the blame for the rank and file employees mistakes. The rank and file can't make decisions on behalf of the company, and work under supervision that is supposed to prevent their mistakes from harming the company. When that fails the failure really does reflect a problem at a higher level, and that's what a board wants to see dealt with. Managers can be let go with a severance, and businesses will sometimes help the manager find a better job elsewhere which keeps it amicable and that benefits the business more than a messy breakup. This is just a talking point, and I'm in no way trying to say that's what SE did here.
    That's assuming that it was the "Rank and file" who were to blame. I've worked managment in a large company and I know that the term "Sh*t rolls downhill" is true as ever. The higher ups will lay the blame on whoever they can find and chances are Tanaka fit the bill perfectly to take the blame for there moronic decisions (Like releasing the game long before it was ready)

    I have little doubt that the lower level employees screwed up the game, hell they are doing a fine job as it stands and I doubt Yoshi is that much of a superstar to make the team work on a totally new level. They just needed the freedom they are now allowed now that the game is flailing to stay afloat from the higher ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    That's assuming that it was the "Rank and file" who were to blame. I've worked managment in a large company and I know that the term "Sh*t rolls downhill" is true as ever. The higher ups will lay the blame on whoever they can find and chances are Tanaka fit the bill perfectly to take the blame for there moronic decisions (Like releasing the game long before it was ready)

    I have little doubt that the lower level employees screwed up the game, hell they are doing a fine job as it stands and I doubt Yoshi is that much of a superstar to make the team work on a totally new level. They just needed the freedom they are now allowed now that the game is flailing to stay afloat from the higher ups.

    "Director" is just laymans terms for "The guy you blame to save your ass"
    We know SE sucks ass at PC development, they just do. But really the initial design of gameplay, the choice of piece of crap (FFXI HD) engine, etc. all points at the game being rotten from the very start.

    If tanaka saw all this, if all these decisions were forced on him, he would have resigned.

    So either it was was all his idea (except for release date?) or he was too blind to see the train wreck of game he was leading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilean View Post

    So either it was was all his idea (except for release date?) or he was too blind to see the train wreck of game he was leading.
    Most 90% of the issues the game suffered from at launch were clearly due to a rushed launch. Wether it's Tanakas fault or not is unclear. I generally don't like to assume, I like to look at both sides of the coin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilean View Post
    So either it was was all his idea (except for release date?) or he was too blind to see the train wreck of game he was leading.
    or he was forced to release it before things were completed and he had to do the half finished stuff we got on release and expected to have the time to finish them.
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    Yeah keep telling yourself that.

    First of all he was (maybe) forced to release it "early" because the game was years late.

    But seriously, it was going to be better once finished? Leve centered gameplay? BR system that was just like FFXI's, only worse?

    Pretty much everything that was broken was broken by design, not at implementation level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilean View Post
    Yeah keep telling yourself that.

    First of all he was (maybe) forced to release it "early" because the game was years late.

    But seriously, it was going to be better once finished? Leve centered gameplay? BR system that was just like FFXI's, only worse?

    Pretty much everything that was broken was broken by design, not at implementation level.
    both you and me made statements. both of those statements are opinions. neither opinion is wrong.

    my opinion is the game would have been perfectly fine if it was finished. we would not be a year later and still not even have a battle system completed.
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