Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Senn]

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What you're asking for is buff men with bulk. Earlier, you posted a buff picture of a boxer from whatever game that was. I would not fantasia to viera if they looked like that.
A muscle slider won't change the shape of the model. So what you're asking for is a bulky character and a slider to make them toned or not toned. There will most likely not be a slider to physically change the model itself to be slim or bulky. I would prefer viera to be slim like in the tweet rather than bulky like what you have been suggesting this entire time.

[Theodric]

What you're asking for is buff men with bulk. Earlier, you posted a buff picture of a boxer from whatever game that was.

The character is Steve Fox and he is a character from Tekken 7 with a boxer's physique. His build and level of muscle definition is not hugely dissimilar to that of the muscular Viera art that has been posted throughout this thread, including that originating from Matsuno.

I would not fantasia to viera if they looked like that.

I see. I, however, would! I suspect quite a few other players both within this thread and outside of it would too.

A muscle slider won't change the shape of the model. So what you're asking for is a bulky character and a slider to make them toned or not toned. There will most likely not be a slider to physically change the model itself to be slim or bulky.

As stated earlier, Viera men are highly unlikely to be added at any point in the immediate future. I don't expect to see them until the expansion that launches after Shadowbringers is upon us.

Furthermore, the development team have been talking more and more positively about enhanced customisation for the existing playable races. Once they overcome the obstacles posed to them, I think there's a decent chance that they'll develop customisation features that impact the character model a little more drastically to allow for more or less bulk.

As you so nobly stated in this thread and others, you are a firm supporter of more customisation options so I do not doubt that you would be excited by such a prospect were it to happen.

I would prefer viera to be slim like in the tweet rather than bulky like what you have been suggesting this entire time.

That's fine. Yet mixed messages have been sent in regards to the use of 'slim' throughout this thread - hence my confusion.

For example, in the opening post there is this:

I made an edit to the concept art

I made the shoulders less broad, the neck a tad bit shorter, and removed the fur.

The art itself lacks strong muscle definition and can easily be considered to be 'slim' in the typical use of the word. It's very different to the art of Viera men with obvious muscle.

Until Yoshi-P made his official statement on the subject the term 'slim' was being used in a very different context by more than a few posters throughout the thread. Furthermore, some of the art being posted and praised as 'slim' depicted even shorter, softer Viera men. Some of which were arguably a little too young looking to be appropriate!

So it has definitely been difficult keeping track as to what exactly some posters mean when using the word 'slim'.

[Yana-Chan]

Now I'm confused. Male Miqo'te have quite wide age gap in their face types, you know? There is a teen-type face (G'raha Tia used it), ~18+ y.o. type face (Mugear_Bahamut uses it as far as I can see under his eye bondage), ~25+ y.o. type face (the one you and me use) and ~35+ y.o. type face (X'rhun Tia from RDM quest line uses it). So.... older than which one?

As for fur, would be good to have it as optional feature, but not as permanent one, in my own preferences, but that's not up to me to decide anyway. x)

Oh I guess the one that is in my profile pic, not sure which one that would fit under. I’d be okay with like a miqote- au ra type face, something that’s submissive but can also look dominant. The fur patch should definitely be an option because I know some don’t want it so it could either be part of the 2 clans or a customization option.

[Theodric]

As far as Miqo'te are concerned, the face that X'rhun uses is my favourite. To me, it is the best of the lot and it is a real shame that it isn't utilised more often! I'd be on board with Viera men having an option that has a similar level of 'grit' to it. After all, Viera men live solitary lifestyles for the most part and would be weathered by such an experience. I suspect they would be rather aloof and reserved in their demeanor, though quick to spring into action if required - switching to fierce and intimidating in a flash.

[Senn]

As stated earlier, Viera men are highly unlikely to be added at any point in the immediate future. I don't expect to see them until the expansion that launches after Shadowbringers is upon us.

idk how this is relevant to anything I said at all. You're just stating the obvious.
As for the concept art picture, the shape is still the same, the muscles are just toned down. If we did have a muscle tone slider, and if it was turned all the way up, it would look like minafumi's art. So yeah, I'd say the concept art and minafumi's art is consistent and on point.

[Halivel]

Well, appearance isn't really strictly connected with your life experience, it's more about genetic (the point is, that if somebody lives solitary life doesn't mean they can't look like bishounen). Most males in this game have "young" and "old" face options (except maybe Hroths due to the fact they are furries and probably lalas) so if there ever will be mViera, they most likely will have "young and handsome" and "adult and grumpy" options same as others.

And well, the fact that X'ruhn face is quite unpopular says a lot for itself about playerbase preferences, but that's another story.

[Theodric]

idk

I suppose you do not! Either way, I'm pleased to know that you're on board with the idea of Viera men being tall, handsome and possessed of a boxer's physique.

Moving on, though, I find myself wondering how much more lore we will see in regards to Viera men within the game itself moving forward. I don't think they will have a physical presence anytime soon but quests and other forms of flavour text may give us more insight into them.

[Yana-Chan]

I suppose you do not! Either way, I'm pleased to know that you're on board with the idea of Viera men being tall, handsome and possessed of a boxer's physique.

Moving on, though, I find myself wondering how much more lore we will see in regards to Viera men within the game itself moving forward. I don't think they will have a physical presence anytime soon but quests and other forms of flavour text may give us more insight into them.

I think we will actually find out more with their appearance. We might find out if they are taller than females, if they have the fur patch or some don’t or something? Body type, clothing, ears? Who knows. We might find out more involving their environment too.

[Senn]

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Yeah, but definitely not the kind of boxer you posted. The one in Matsuno/minafumi's tweet, which again, was nothing like what you posted.

Like I said again, the official concept art and minafumi's tweet share the same body shape except one is smooth and the other is toned. You can change that with a muscle tone slider. If you're on the same page as me, you would be supporting the official concept you just posted with the softer features, and also minafumi's art because the body is the same shape. If you don't, then we clearly don't see eye to eye. Which is fine, too. We all have our preferences. However, if you aren't on board with that, don't act like we're in agreement.

I'm definitely hoping male viera will have the bishounen look if they are ever added. Or at least have a variety of face options that includes that look. Something elegant, too.

[Senn]

I think we will actually find out more with their appearance. We might find out if they are taller than females, if they have the fur patch or some don’t or something? Body type, clothing, ears? Who knows. We might find out more involving their environment too.

If they are ever added, I reaaaaally hope the chest fur is optional. I can understand why it would appeal to some people, but it's just not for me.