Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Senn]

Good to see you have started to think that way! I remember when you were adamant about the tall, elegant look. Good on you!

What are you even on about? I still support having an omega M body type. I'm just not going to go around criticizing or mocking people for their preference like some people here.

[Yana-Chan]

I think we should move on from denying people what they want, and simply just support what you want instead. There's no agreement that's going to happen here.

We all just need to agree on what the concept show and all the information we have on them instead of trying to get “super slim, bulky, Chunky” fem? Probably not but no one really knows because they haven’t explained the face besides “elezen, elegant, and handsome” during ShB we will find out more so it’s just a matter of time until we can all have ideas on “how they will look with all this information we have in them”

[Senn]

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Hey, we don't have to agree with each other. However, we shouldn't be putting other people down, either. Just support what you want to support, no need to knock down anyone's opinion. I still believe that the design should be up to the dev team, and I'll respect their design decision for viera, whatever the form may be.

[Theodric]

There's a big difference between ridicule and someone simply stating that they have no interest in feminine or androgynous aesthetics for male viera. I've proposed a compromise in the form of one base face adhering to those aesthetics alongside a muscle slider but with the women being designed to be conventionally attractive it makes sense for the men to be as such as well. A little rugged, perhaps, but still handsome - such as in the vein as Hien or the Warrior of Light as shown in cinematics.

Not everybody is going to agree and no matter how they are designed there will be those who are left disappointed, yet the general consensus through discussion has led to many people here agreeing that something along the lines of the viera in Lauront's signature would be ideal.

[Senn]

There's a big difference between ridicule and someone simply stating that they have no interest in feminine or androgynous aesthetics for male viera.

You called this abhorrent to look at. How is that not ridicule? Why the need to insult?

I just find it abhorrent to look at.

[Theodric]

You called this abhorrent to look at. How is that not ridicule? Why the need to insult?

I genuinely find it to be creepy. You've also suggested removing the fur and for the viera in the art to be made even slimmer which made me raise an eyebrow, I'll admit. If you want odd proportions then lalafell and elezen already exist. Viera women are both conventionally attractive and well proportioned, so I'd expect the men to be much the same.

Nobody is being ridiculed or insulted. Some of the art put forward is, sure, but that does not equal a personal attack - outside of cases where child-like characters are being presented in an inappropriate manner, in which case outrage is wholly justified.

lol casually ignoring bad behavior when he does it, eh? I wonder why :^)

Bad behaviour...?

[Senn]

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and I was told I was the one dancing around words and implications

[Theodric]

and I was told I was the one dancing around words and implications

I'm not at all sure what you want me to say. I don't care for those particular aesthetics, so I don't want male viera to look that way. It should not be a source of controversy and it isn't a personal attack.

If, for whatever reason, you happen to resemble the artwork then please be aware that I do not mean any offence with my posts. Again, as I stated, I simply do not find the aesthetics in that piece of art or those similar to it to be appealing in any way.

[SturmChurro]

Some new Shadowbringers concept art, maybe a cover image. A male viera gunbreaker.

You called this abhorrent to look at. How is that not ridicule? Why the need to insult?

[Senn]

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lol casually ignoring bad behavior when he does it, eh? I wonder why :^)