The Nothing Better To Do But Speculate Thread - Tanks

[Kabooa]

Starting from earliest to latest.

Disclaimer: entirely possible I missed something during talky talky parts that explains these.

Gunbreaker
-I am the hype
-Pretty standard so far. Pull attack, gap closer.
-Have a Regen, buddy.
-You're taking too much damage, this is an Intervention.
-BAKURESTU
-Some sort of Bullet Ground. Something that probably reduces your health to 1 but makes you impervious to most attacks.
-BAKURETSU
-LA LA LA
-One round per enhanced combo line?
-ECKSU KALIBAAAAAAAAA

Warrior
-What's a stance
-These abilities aren't locked to the same button anymore, George. You need to put Fell Cleave back on your bar.
-I WILL BE YOUR SHIELD. AXE.
-Because everyone loves getting AoE combo lines. 20 BG is 20 BG though.
-Wastes a GCD of IR.
-Pretty sure we've seen this before.
-George, different buttons, remember?

Paladin
-Hey guys wait up for me I can dash too.
-Still got Total eclipse? Okay.
-Because everyone loves getting aoe combo lines.
-I weaved something. Like all the healer segments you have no context for this.
-Dragoons get a fourth combo, why not me too? Or maybe I'm upgraded Spirits Within.
-Wait, was that Riot Sword? Totally different from Riot Blade.
-Cast Times are for Not-Clerics.
-Holiest of Holies is here, now leave us alone.
-I'm not saying this is innuendo, but I am saying that I have assumed a position, and you just got penetrated by a giant sword. I'm probably that 800 aoe Potency that got leaked.

Dark Knight
-Poster boy hyyyyyyyyyype
-Ultimatum is a good skill.
-I still have unleash.
-BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO AN AOE COMBO LINE.
-Hey, remember that one job ability I never got?
-Huh, you get a timer. What's it do?
-Blud Weppin. +10 blood per weaponskill.
-I'M ONE OF THE 3K MP SKILLS THAT GOT LEAKED BUT WHICH OOOONE!
-Spending MP gives timer for something.
-KAGE BUNSHIN NO JUTSU
-Timer based on that timer?
-Souleater gives 20 blood? Dang, you overcapped by like 20 earlier.
-Dark Arts Carve and Spit, minus the Dark Arts.
-I heard you like Inner Release. How about INNER LETTING GO
-Fellcleave. Fellcleave. Fellcleave.

[whiskeybravo]

-Wastes a GCD of IR.

Yeeaaaa...... That made me cringe. But I figure they use abilities a bit slower than we normally would in order to show off the effects.

Otherwise, glad to see DRK got some serious attention, I may actually be inclined to level it over GNB (I know my co-tank wants to level GNB anyways)

[DRKoftheAzure]

Just watch when the expac goes live, all of the DPS still don't use their aggro mitigation skills because they don't read the tooltips and don't what role actions are and just happen to rip aggro from tanks because tanks don't use high enmity AoEs to hold aggro because it's a DPS loss and they bring back aggro combos just so the BLM doesn't rip aggro from tanks, especially DRK mains...

[whiskeybravo]

Just watch when the expac goes live, all of the DPS still don't use their aggro mitigation skills because they don't read the tooltips and don't what role actions are and just happen to rip aggro from tanks because tanks don't use high enmity AoEs to hold aggro because it's a DPS loss and they bring back aggro combos just so the BLM doesn't rip aggro from tanks, especially DRK mains...

They mentioned something about that how the tank stances will generate a lot of aggro. Of course we'll have to monitor this situation, they always do some adjustments in the following weeks anyways. But with this change I can't see them bringing back aggro combos. Every ability becomes an aggro combo just by using tank stance, if there are issues all they'll have to do is change whatever modifier the stance applies.

But yea, I was already told no more help managing aggro from my DPS lol

[DRKoftheAzure]

But yea, I was already told no more help managing aggro from my DPS lol

And the BLM still manages to rip threat from tanks no matter the adjustments... It's going to happen...

[Jollyy5]

I wouldn't be too surprised if Fell Cleave is only usable during Inner Release and replaces Inner Beast for the duration.

Inner Beast and Steel Cyclone had different sounds and particle effects, which is Curious.

[whiskeybravo]

Inner Beast and Steel Cyclone had different sounds and particle effects, which is Curious.

I'm not looking too much into that, it seemed like several skills got some animation makeovers

[Bright-Flower]

With the way they phrased things with the new tank stance, I wonder if they'll get rid of 'high enmity' abilities and just have that as an on/off switch.

For example if they make tank stance give enough enmity they could get rid of flash and just give gladiator total eclipse at the level we currently get flash.

I have a feeling this may REDUCE enmity issues in general because there's really no reason for tanks in dungeons to not have their tank stance on at all times now, and in raids/trials tanks won't be going without tank stance for the sake of more damage. If provoke/shirk still works, then even off tanks can get good enmity without needing to keep the stance on and risk pulling from the MT.

[Nyarlha]

With the way they phrased things with the new tank stance, I wonder if they'll get rid of 'high enmity' abilities and just have that as an on/off switch.

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I think that's exactly what they said they were doing during the livestream. No more baseline enmity bonus on any action, but tank stance gives bonus enmity to every action.

[Bright-Flower]

I think that's exactly what they said they were doing during the livestream. No more baseline enmity bonus on any action, but tank stance gives bonus enmity to every action.

Yeah, so I'm expecting flash to go away, as it would feel...unnecessary in the new system. Currently you flash for an enmity lead then total eclipse for damage (or just TE if not tanking) and in the new system, just doesn't feel like flash has a place, tank will just turn on enmity stance then go to town with TE.