another housing complaint thread

[LaylaTsarra]

The RNG timer does suck. Plots should go into a timer status after demo or release but the plots shouldn't be shown as available in my opinion. They should randomly pop onto the market after the timer expires and be ready for sale. That would prevent the camping and the needless sitting at the placard clicking for hours. I know I just did that on Balmung and was lucky enough to get a small for my new FC.

It's certainly not a fun experience and not for everyone. Even being persistent doesn't guarantee getting it and only builds resentment in my view.

[Kiba_Whitewolf]

I've wasted a total of 23 hours in the last 3 days due to someone running in and skipping the timer on houses with relocation. The current system is absolute garbage and a random raffle needs to be added instead. I don't care that I didn't get the house. I care that the process of acquiring one is an incredible waste of my time.

[Sesera]

I've wasted a total of 23 hours in the last 3 days due to someone running in and skipping the timer on houses with relocation. The current system is absolute garbage and a random raffle needs to be added instead. I don't care that I didn't get the house. I care that the process of acquiring one is an incredible waste of my time.

I've recently uninstalled the game because of that crap.

I started at 7am or so until 7.45pm so more than 12 hours and then I had to go diner. When I came back 15min later it was bought. Yes I spent the all day doing mostly nothing but clicking a placard for a house getting taken from me the few minutes I wasn't behind my computer.

Lets not forget the moment I almost didn't sleep only for the house to be bought at 12pm or so when I was eating.


The harsh part beside time wasted is that when I do that for a house its because I love the plot location.

[GojuSuzi]

Plots should go into a timer status after demo or release but the plots shouldn't be shown as available in my opinion. They should randomly pop onto the market after the timer expires and be ready for sale.

I'm new to the game, and was very excited when our small FC got access to purchase land...until I realised that even on normal pop servers it's rare to even see a plot for sale, and when you do, you can sit for hours spam-clicking, scared to leave because it could be any second. I'm currently pushing into hour 7 on this plot, mostly alone, and will still be unlikely to win it, like has happened on other plots before. It's demoralising to sacrifice sleep, fun, and actually playing the game for hours on end to get only wrist pain and a chat log full of red.

Better options:
* Hidden timer before it goes on sale, but once it's for sale it is actually for damn sale!
* Hidden timer like now, but it's marked as in escrow rather than for sale: you click once, cite interest, and once escrow ends, it's raffled between interested parties, or if escrow ends with no sale, put it up for sale and start your devaluation timer.
* Set update times combined with the current random timer, so whilst you don't know if that hellish timer is going to be one hour or one day, you know it'll only change status on the top of the hour, so you can go and spend 59 mins doing, I dunno, actually fun stuff.

Additionally, the relocation thing is complicated, because so many people are forced into taking plots that'll do, so they should have the option to upgrade, but not at the expense of those still trying to get in on their first plot. Relocation has to be subject to the same rules as new buys. Currently, folk are forced to take any small plot they can find and then wait on their preferred plot, as it's impossible to get the more desirable plots unless via relocation, which not only costs more, but means folk are hogging the less desirable plots as a temporary base, where they could be being actually used by players who are less fussy about location. Also, set a cooldown on relocating, say 45 days after purchase you have the option to relocate, but before that you cannot. That should make it less enticing to lock yourself/your FC into a plot as you may miss that plot you were holding out for. If you're looking for a small plot to use until you can afford to upgrade, it still works, but if you're just grabbing something to timer-skip, you shoot yourself in the foot.

Being honest, if it wasn't for my friends playing, this experience would have driven me away from the game. I just cannot comprehend why a game developer would want you to be unable to play the game for hours/days/weeks, trapped click-spamming and growing increasingly disenchanted with the game. And it's not the lack of availability - scarcity of desirable resources is fine - it's the timer and the way it requires you to game the system to bypass it.

[Besame]

Terrible system, worst I have ever seen in a MMO and I have been playing them for 20+ yrs. Goju's idea about not being able to buy or relocate to another house for 45 days seems like a good one.

I bought my first house, a small about 2.5 yrs ago then upgraded to the medium I have now about 9 months later. I grabbed an apt along the way at first for deco storage I wasn't using then eventually made it a cute shop. One of the attractive draws to the game was housing and I remember being dismayed when I saw so few within wards the day I went to purchase. For myself, if I had not been able to purchase a house, which was advertised as part of the play package prior to my starting FF, I would not still be here to make this post.

I hope they take the housing community serious and make it a better place really soon.

[GU099]

Terrible system, worst I have ever seen in a MMO and I have been playing them for 20+ yrs.

I hope they take the housing community serious and make it a better place really soon.

If it's so bad then quit. You'll be doing others in your situation a favor by being one less person sitting at a placard. You'll also be saving yourself stress and grief. Win-win

[Naoki34]

This rng timer is getting to be unfun. would be better if they showed the timer if they want to keep the timer.

You can thank the house sellers, it's because of them that they put an invisible timer.

But in the end, are the players / Fc without homes who pay the consequences.

Before, just buy the houses and resell them after 3 to 4 times more expensive.

[mjorge1991]

If it's so bad then quit. You'll be doing others in your situation a favor by being one less person sitting at a placard. You'll also be saving yourself stress and grief. Win-win

Do you just go through every house post and act toxic towards people ? Second post i have seen where you acting like a elitist. People are making valid points, the current system is not working.

[Besame]

If it's so bad then quit. You'll be doing others in your situation a favor by being one less person sitting at a placard. You'll also be saving yourself stress and grief. Win-win

Never stood at a placard, never will, I am content with my medium home but I would swap to a large if the opportunity arose in an area/plot I desired. Housing here is a fail part of fun gameplay right now for many and I feel bad for the good people playing that have none. I hope one day they make instanced housing a reality and allot one per person/server with alts able to occupy.

[shaiel]

OP, I think your best chance of getting a house right now without click spamming placards is by moving to another datacenter. Aether and Primal have consistently been full and low on housing compared to Crystal. I have a toon on Gilgamesh & on Famfrit and I check housing as I log on, even Famfrit which is a preferred world has had 1-3 vacancies only and they do get camped. I only got a house because the person camping with me quit and went to sleep. The housing system really is a mess. The RNG with placards, the relocation sales so you can get specific plots, and the system for FC housing where people just buy multiple FCs all have to be addressed. Solutions other than instanced housing would be:
1. Improve already existing apartment system - include a balcony for garden plots and it's basically the same functionality as a small house
2. Disable relocation or change the way relocation works so people don't use it for malicious purposes to reset timers or for "sale" on Reddit / discord / outside of the game
3. Limit FC housing ownership to 1 per account like personal housing. Take away houses from people who are using loopholes to acquire 2 or more houses.