Sanity check - crafting job skip potions?

[supergiz]

For all you people in support of crafting jump potions, it would be hypocritical if you didn't also support potions that got you all the mounts, all the minions, and everything else.

So where do you stop?

[Krotoan]

For all you people in support of crafting jump potions, it would be hypocritical if you didn't also support potions that got you all the mounts, all the minions, and everything else.

So where do you stop?

Quite the slippery slope there. Just because someone wants a shortcut to current-ish level content for their class doesn't mean they wish to skip the entire game. Just as if you're against jump pots that doesn't mean you want a version of the game that only lets you run content with gear that was available when it was released and at appropriate level.

[supergiz]

Quite the slippery slope there. Just because someone wants a shortcut to current-ish level content for their class doesn't mean they wish to skip the entire game. Just as if you're against jump pots that doesn't mean you want a version of the game that only lets you run content with gear that was available when it was released and at appropriate level.

See what you are saying but one could argue that the special mounts are not critical to the game. They are practically glamour items. Weapons and armor I could see but there's literally no point to mounts than to show off.

Might as well sell mounts on the cash shop after X period of time. Give the people who want bragging rights a few months to brag about it then give them to everyone else who wants to pay money for them. Same with minions. Also housing is not critical to the game. It's a complete luxury item. Why not sell house plots on the cash shop? 99% of the people in this game are botting to get those anyway.

[Krotoan]

See what you are saying but one could argue that the special mounts are not critical to the game. They are practically glamour items. Weapons and armor I could see but there's literally no point to mounts than to show off.

Might as well sell mounts on the cash shop after X period of time. Give the people who want bragging rights a few months to brag about it then give them to everyone else who wants to pay money for them. Same with minions. Also housing is not critical to the game. It's a complete luxury item. Why not sell house plots on the cash shop? 99% of the people in this game are botting to get those anyway.

Because throwing your hands up in the air and saying "well if you can take a shortcut here, you should be able to take a shortcut EVERYWHERE" is grossly oversimplifying the wants and needs of the game.
I'd personally be fine with some of the crazier time investment mounts being cash shopped because some people just don't have the time and would take literal years to achieve them. Also many of the mounts/minions aren't even really achievements.. just luck RNG drops.
But SE doesn't offer things on the cash shop that you can currently get through gameplay. So far that's their only unbroken rule.
Why would we ask for something that SE has NEVER done instead of asking for something they've already done?

[supergiz]

Because throwing your hands up in the air and saying "well if you can take a shortcut here, you should be able to take a shortcut EVERYWHERE" is grossly oversimplifying the wants and needs of the game.
I'd personally be fine with some of the crazier time investment mounts being cash shopped because some people just don't have the time and would take literal years to achieve them. Also many of the mounts/minions aren't even really achievements.. just luck RNG drops.
But SE doesn't offer things on the cash shop that you can currently get through gameplay. So far that's their only unbroken rule.
Why would we ask for something that SE has NEVER done instead of asking for something they've already done?

Correct me if I'm wrong but can't you get to lvl 60 through gameplay? Can't you get through the storyline up to SB through gameplay? Come to think of it can't you get your retainers up to lvl 60 through gameplay? Phial of fantasia? Also achievable through playing the game (they give one to you in a MSQ). The dyes, yep through gameplay.

[Krotoan]

Correct me if I'm wrong but can't you get to lvl 60 through gameplay? Can't you get through the storyline up to SB through gameplay? Come to think of it can't you get your retainers up to lvl 60 through gameplay? Phial of fantasia? Also achievable through playing the game (they give one to you in a MSQ). The dyes, yep through gameplay.

I was speaking more items wise but you're right. you can get dyes and a singular phial of fantasia (both consumable) through gameplay Shall I revise my statement or can you extrapolate?

[Lersayil]

For all you people in support of crafting jump potions, it would be hypocritical if you didn't also support potions that got you all the mounts, all the minions, and everything else.

So where do you stop?

I would argue that the leveling potions are a means to skip over subjectively boring content to get access to more interesting content, while mounts are an end goal that only provides some minor personal satisfaction of using the mount thereafter. One could argue that for some thats sort of the same, but thats my validation of it.

Also, you can already buy mounts in the store.