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  1. #21
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    I think according to the game. I would actually have Llymlaen as my sign as my birthday is May 14th.

    I'm a Taurus though so I would have Nophica in our world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Just have to keep in mind that astrology is more of a religion than it is a science, but a lot of it does actually make logical sense when you go deeper into it.
    Astrology is not a science at all. At best in modern times it could be called spiritual entertainment, and makes no logical sense whatsoever especially the more you go deeper into it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAiW9lx4U58

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zp4fvcw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Astrology is not a science at all. At best in modern times it could be called spiritual entertainment, and makes no logical sense whatsoever especially the more you go deeper into it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAiW9lx4U58

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zp4fvcw
    What you're doing here with these links is comparing the religion of astrology to the actual science of astrophysics. A "spiritual entertainment" is at best your opinion. Religion is defined as a system of beliefs surrounding an all powerful being or God, whom is worshipped. In the case of Astrology, it's the universe. A further irrefutable definition of religion is a system of ideals with no scientific proof that it that the heavenly entities they worship actually exist, which is why I said it is more of a religion than a science. However, it still leans towards the realm of science because the universe does exist.

    Horoscopes, which is what the video debunks is also looked at as ridiculous by those into astrology. It differs greatly because Horoscopes are like tarot cards and palm readers telling us what kind of day we are going to have, what's the romance going to be, and all that jibba-jabba. That's not really what I was getting at all. I was more or less just explaining how birthcharts work, how they are calculated, and what they mean in comparison to the distinctive traits associated with each of the 12 zodiac signs.

    I say it's less logical on the surface because it's easy to find people who will tell you they don't relate to their sun sign. An Astrologist who knows their stuff will tell you that the characteristics associated with any particular sign belongs to the sign itself. Everyone is their own person, and their behavior is more influenced by their environment, how they were raised, genetics, and so forth. However, people reading deeper into astrology will eventually find something that they do relate to that ties more into past and present rather than tellings of the future.
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    IRL, I'm a Scorpio, which would put me with Halone. I don't think my temper is that bad.....

    Iyami's patron deity is Oschon, which fits. She took up adventuring as an excuse to see the world and get paid for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    However, it still leans towards the realm of science because the universe does exist.
    That sentence makes no logical sense. Something doesn't become scientific just because it talks about something that exists. Science has to meet certain criteria such as being evidence based, repeatable and falsifiable. Astrology is none of those. You can believe whatever the heck you want about planets and gods and stuff, but there is nothing scientific whatsoever about astrology. This is the only thing I'm harping on, since trying to even claim it is adjacent to a science is complete bunk. The phrase you're looking for instead of "leans towards the realm of science" is pseudo-science. Please use that phrase instead of trying to lend some sort of scientific legitimacy to astrology.

    You can say whatever you want about how religion relates to astrology since astrology is commonly associated with and linked with modern religions despite not being a religion in and of itself, and religion honestly doesn't matter to me in the slightest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    That sentence makes no logical sense. Something doesn't become scientific just because it talks about something that exists. Science has to meet certain criteria such as being evidence based, repeatable and falsifiable. Astrology is none of those. You can believe whatever the heck you want about planets and gods and stuff, but there is nothing scientific whatsoever about astrology. This is the only thing I'm harping on, since trying to even claim it is adjacent to a science is complete bunk. The phrase you're looking for instead of "leans towards the realm of science" is pseudo-science. Please use that phrase instead of trying to lend some sort of scientific legitimacy to astrology.

    You can say whatever you want about how religion relates to astrology since astrology is commonly associated with and linked with modern religions despite not being a religion in and of itself, and religion honestly doesn't matter to me in the slightest.
    Dude. I already stated multiple times that it isn't science. Just because I said it leans towards it doesn't all of a sudden change something that isn't into something that is. Get off of your high horse, you've got nothing to prove to me that isn't already known. It's "spiritual entertainment" remember? If none of this interests you, then why are you here? Everyone in this thread except you is contributing to that except you and your, "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I already stated multiple times that it isn't science.
    You said it has some scientific qualities and that it leans towards science. That inference is what I have an issue with.

    astrology is more of a religion than it is a science
    However, it still leans towards the realm of science because the universe does exist
    Thank you for clearly acknowledging that it isn't a science in your most recent post, however. I happy to ignore people talking about auras and signs and stuff, but I will always call out the use of the term science to refer to it. If that makes it my high horse, so be it.
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    I am a Aries in RL and it just so happens i went with Rhalgar at the time because i figured blm main> destruction, so why not
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    I am a Libra and I definitely believe Byregot fits VERY well. Hax on the other hand is born under Byregot but follows Althyk (which is an interesting dynamic as Earth Grounds or Cancels out Lightning) and I can see why you placed Capricorn with it and think it fits quite well. This is a fantastic list and I appreciate you making it. It shows that you put a lot of thought into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    You said it has some scientific qualities and that it leans towards science. That inference is what I have an issue with.
    Yeah. I said that because it incorporates what science acknowledges, like the Sun, the planets, the solar system, and other stars rather than invisible entities of blind worship. It talks about things such as gravitational polarities on each side of the Earth, retrogrades and tidal lock. All of which are factual in the realm of astrophysics. However, because a lot of it is based on beliefs rather than facts, I compare it more to a religion. You're placing an issue where there isn't one, and that is my issue with your posts.

    Thank you for clearly acknowledging that it isn't a science in your most recent post, however. I happy to ignore people talking about auras and signs and stuff, but I will always call out the use of the term science to refer to it. If that makes it my high horse, so be it.
    It should have been clear that I acknowledged that it isn't a science from the get go, and can't be faulted if you failed to comprehend that. The reason why I mentioned science at all was to point out that everything I said in my previous post about birthcharts and rulers is NOT a science, and more of a religion. But you and your triggered ego had to come in because... reasons? If you poked your head in for the name of science in a thread talking about the signs of the zodiac and how it relates in a fictional universe, I'm pretty sure that name isn't on the role call list.
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