Going on 2 hours of radio silence after logging in to find my character in GM jail

[Physic]

Similar to you all assuming that he deserves the ban with little detail about the situation? Also, my point is simply to raise CONCERN. I can't claim with 100% certainty that they are or are not guilty.... but neither can you.

i am assuming nothing

i know he was banned for using 3rd party software, which is illegal. He never debates this.

you assume that he was banned for old logs he may have uploaded at some point in time, which may have been reported. You assume he was given an unfair punishment, and you arent even sure what the crime is, because the poster never actually told you what it was. You have virtually no details, even assuming the poster is truthful, and you claim its an unfair sentence.

[Yllania]

Then youd know that those wernt there within the first couple of pages which I was around for and that I had in fact read the OP during that time, sorry I have to explain it for you

Please love all my posts too and calm down. Also keep editing your posts while youre at it

[Avidria]

I'm sure there was an interview where Yoshida was asked about ACT and parsers, will search for a link. Main thing is that if there will be official tool for parsering - there is very high chance that players will use it as harassment tool. "Oh you don't have XXXX dps… bye-bye, go away, no you can't go with us looser". Just imagine amount of reports for harassment in this case, it will be everyday 100+ tickets task for GMs. And while this game is pretty much focused on outcoming DPS, Yoshida's statement was that players should not insult each others if there is not enough damage from somebody.

ACT is a grey area. Yes, it is 3d party tool, so technically it's against ToS. However, it doesn't give you any real advantages, so you can use it as long as you don't scream about it in chat and don't harass others because of their damage.

I guess I just... don't agree with that on principle? I mean, I played WoW for over a decade, and used parsers all the time. Did I see some people use them to be jerks? Yeah. But I saw infinitely more people using them as a tool for self or raid improvement, to find and solve problems. Most random dungeons, the parser never even got mentioned at all. It was used more a tool to hold people accountable than to harass them, at least in my experience. Hard to get away with just sitting half-afk auto attacking for an entire dungeon when everyone can see that you are, for example (yes this is actually a thing that happened to me once).

It just seems like it'd be better than having some people using the tool and getting banned for mentioning it, while anybody not using it is left at a disadvantage. The way it's handled now just... seems odd to me.

[WaterShield]

Huh? What are you on about?

Okay, let's spell this out for you. 1) The majority of the top World First clear groups all use ACT triggers (telling you about moves before they come). 2) They aren't banned because they aren't stupid. SE has a don't ask, don't tell policy. So as long as those groups don't say anything about it chat or upload a log in chat, and don't have the person using ACT triggers be the one that's recording, then SE is none the wiser.

If you're wondering how I know they use them, that would be because I've personally seen members of at least two groups use them, and others have talked about it on other social media platforms (that I will not link or disclose for obvious reasons).

Does the trigger tell them how to complete the incoming mechanic? Does it execute it for them?

It sounds to me as though (assuming this actually works) all you get is a reminder that X mechanic is happening. This can already be done by having a raid member speak up and say "Hey everybody Hello World coming up get ready"

[WaterShield]

i am assuming nothing

i know he was banned for using 3rd party software, which is illegal. He never debates this.

you assume that he was banned for old logs he may have uploaded at some point in time, which may have been reported. You assume he was given an unfair punishment, and you arent even sure what the crime is, because the poster never actually told you what it was. You have virtually no details, even assuming the poster is truthful, and you claim its an unfair sentence.

You assume sitting in the gaol for hours with no communication and then given a 10 day ban for a first offense is a fair punishment. I disagree with that.

[Yllania]

I dont care about parsers either as long as they arent used to harass people, so assuming OP told it as it is yea that would suck. If using it to help get number up should be fine

[WaterShield]

Then youd know that those wernt there within the first couple of pages which I was around for and that I had in fact read the OP during that time, sorry I have to explain it for you

Please love all my posts too and calm down. Also keep editing your posts while youre at it

You are assuming I am angry with you (I am not) I apologize if I hurt your feelings, as that was not my intention. I had no way of knowing if you had seen the screenshots or not, which is why I quoted OP with them for your viewing pleasure.

[Yllania]

My feelings arent hurt I just think its funny that you jumped on me for it because you assumed stuff

[Kaedan]

Does the trigger tell them how to complete the incoming mechanic? Does it execute it for them?

It sounds to me as though (assuming this actually works) all you get is a reminder that X mechanic is happening. This can already be done by having a raid member speak up and say "Hey everybody Hello World coming up get ready"

Yes, the trigger can be modified to say how to do the mechanic. No, it does not move your character for you.

And no, it is not the same as someone doing callouts from memory or even a list they have. Because human error is involved with that. They can misremember, forget to callout, have a glitchy mic, etc. The ACT trigger doesn't have those problems. So yes, it gives a clear and present advantage.

[WaterShield]

My feelings arent hurt I just think its funny that you jumped on me for it because you assumed stuff

Once again it was not my intention to jump on you for anything. It seems likely that tone came through in your reading of that post, that was not intended.

Edit: Also, they originally posted the screen shot before your first post in the thread... so it was actually a legitimate question to ask.

Yea this is kind of why I dont use it myself even though people keep recommending it. I'm not going to report someone over it but Id rather learn the fight you know?

Again, Watersheild, it wasnt there when I read it otherwise I would have known and I had to have known what the op said to comment on it. Its simple deduction especially when the op itself says it edited. Im not even against the OP.

Edit 2: Post limit sucks Not everyone reads the OP of every forum thread they come in to. I could only base my knowledge of your knowledge of the thread based on your first post in it... which was after the screenshots were posted (based off of time stamps on the edit and the other post they did with them on post #19.) Your first post was on post #36, just over an hour later. Thus, I decided to ask if you had read the OP and link it so that you could see them. Anyway, I think I've done all I can to show my reasoning for the post at this stage. I apologize again if any offense was caused, by the way that post was worded. I should not have addressed you in that overly familiar way.