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  1. #31
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    Beeftotem's Avatar
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    Hugh Jnis
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    Moreover most dps classes have radically different rotations at 70 as opposed to say 32. The one that springs immediately to mind is BLM. The BLM rotation changes 7 or 8 times quite substantially over the course of its leveling path. I don't particularly enjoy having to remember a half dozen different rotations for every class in the game just because I do leveling roulette.

    And this is just it. People complain about bad tank/dps/healers but when the only time you actually get to use your full tool kit is end game content it's kinda of understanding why purple would not really know their class. Also take into account that alot of the content you do takes you into lvlsynced systems you could literally spend more time with out your real tool kit than with it.
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  2. #32
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    Crystal Twilight
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Instead of always syncing down they could sync the dungeon and lower level players to the higher level of that content. And the lower level players could get temporary access to the higher lv skill/spells! Like anything 16-49 would be Lv50 like anything 51-59 would be Lv60 and 61-69 would be Lv70 and there could be a setting for this like there is for the undersized party and stuff!
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    We need a setting to auto use Aetheryte Tickets ~ An amount set by the players like set to 500 Gil if a teleport cost over that amount it will auto-use a ticket!

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by gtasthehunter View Post
    Instead of always syncing down they could sync the dungeon and lower level players to the higher level of that content. And the lower level players could get temporary access to the higher lv skill/spells! Like anything 16-49 would be Lv50 like anything 51-59 would be Lv60 and 61-69 would be Lv70 and there could be a setting for this like there is for the undersized party and stuff!
    I dont think that system would be any better. All they would have to change is the fact you lose abilities, your class already scales down in damage so it should not realistically be that big of a deal. Wow does it this way and guild wars 2 also uses a system like this extensively through the entire overworld.
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  4. #34
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Beeftotem View Post
    I dont think that system would be any better. All they would have to change is the fact you lose abilities, your class already scales down in damage so it should not realistically be that big of a deal. Wow does it this way and guild wars 2 also uses a system like this extensively through the entire overworld.
    The problem is that if you have a 70 BLM syncing down to Sastasha with a level 18 BLM, in order for them to deal the same damage. the 70 BLM would deal peanuts with Fire I, and be required to use the full Enochian and Fire IV rotation in order to match the level 18s BLM Fire I spam.

    How is that fair?
    Lvl 18 BLM gets to AFK the entire dungeon, but you have to focus as hard as you would at level 70 to take down Captain Madison.
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  5. #35
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    Jace Ossura
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    The problem is that if you have a 70 BLM syncing down to Sastasha with a level 18 BLM, in order for them to deal the same damage. the 70 BLM would deal peanuts with Fire I, and be required to use the full Enochian and Fire IV rotation in order to match the level 18s BLM Fire I spam.

    How is that fair?
    Lvl 18 BLM gets to AFK the entire dungeon, but you have to focus as hard as you would at level 70 to take down Captain Madison.
    Or we can let them nuke Satasha because -who !@#%ing cares-
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  6. #36
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    Jenna Starsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Or we can let them nuke Satasha because -who !@#%ing cares-
    All the people who don't want to have to do their full rotation on mobs that would otherwise die in 10 seconds of spamming Fire 1?
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    All the people who don't want to have to do their full rotation on mobs that would otherwise die in 10 seconds of spamming Fire 1?
    If I'm in Satasha, I want out as fast as possible.

    I don't care if it's me or the level 15 doing it.
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  8. #38
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    Nephie Elz
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 90
    Trials:

    -Primal totems for weapons will drop in the 2nd hardest version of every trial
    -The hardest difficulty for each trial will drop one greater totem, normal totems, flute, minion, etcetera
    -Greater totems will be used as totems currently work as as they are now, but weapons from the the previous trial can now be upgraded using a larger number of greater totems (30).
    -weapons from 2nd hardest versions will not be nerfed versions in order to lower DPS barriers, time resource barriers, and increase traffic in non-hardcore versions.
    -totems to acquire regular weapons will be increased by a factor of two
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  9. #39
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    If I'm in Satasha, I want out as fast as possible.

    I don't care if it's me or the level 15 doing it.
    Then wouldn't it be easier and quicker if you can speed through it with Fire I spam?
    Rather than setting everyone back when you accidentally drop Enochian?
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  10. #40
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Then wouldn't it be easier and quicker if you can speed through it with Fire I spam?
    Rather than setting everyone back when you accidentally drop Enochian?
    There's always the WoW compromise: Scale the mobs, not just the players, so that the burden is shared. Sure, the level 15 can try to draw the slack if the synced level 70, but generally it's far more in the capacity of the synced player to cover for both of them. You can make the penalty decently lenient as well, so long as the dungeon wasn't too ridiculously easy in the first place. Moreover, you could then give both options: Do I want to be bored/lazy, or do I want to carry a little bit at greater effort and efficiency?
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