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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Thank you for your responses and keep it up.

    As far as I know, the only thing holding back male viera and female hrothgar is Yoshida's concern with slow patch updates. For those of us who want male viera, this should be the key point of discussion right now. If enough people say they would not mind slower patches for male viera, it will show the devs we are very serious about wanting them in the game.

    If you truly want male viera, please focus in on this key topic - accepting temporary slow patches for the inclusion of male viera and female hrothgar
    Forum staff do read this thread. They do relay our feedback to Yoshida.
    You're going to make male Viera a target with talk like this.

    This game is already far too slow in terms of updates, slowing it down would end it especially for something which is essentially glam.

    If you want support from more than a niche you shouldn't advocate for the rest of the game to suffer so that you get a thing you want, you're circling back around to selfish and entitled and it's only going to garner more heated opposition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
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    I already heard your opinion on it, and you disagree. That's fine. We can at least entertain the idea. Let others explain why or why not they would be ok with slower patches.

    We could also talk about content we wouldn't mind doing without. Someone said eureka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    I already heard your opinion on it, and you disagree. That's fine. We can at least entertain the idea. Let others explain why or why not they would be ok with slower patches.

    We could also talk about content we wouldn't mind doing without. Someone said eureka.
    That seems to be going into controversial territory. There's content in this game I dislike, though I would not wish for it to be sacrificed or delayed for the sake of Viera men and/or Hrothgar women. I want them to be added at some point though not in such a heavy handed manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
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    Controversial topics are ok as long as people are respectful. Disagreements are ok.
    For example, I personally could do without BLU in its current state if it meant male viera would be added to the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Controversial topics are ok as long as people are respectful. Disagreements are ok.
    For example, I personally could do without BLU in its current state if it meant male viera would be added to the game.
    Also a very valid opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    That seems to be going into controversial territory. There's content in this game I dislike, though I would not wish for it to be sacrificed or delayed for the sake of Viera men and/or Hrothgar women. I want them to be added at some point though not in such a heavy handed manner.
    I see no problem with discussing this. As long as people remain civil about an discussion then there is no harm. I for example dont like PVP or raids much thus I would have no problem if they would focus less on new PVP maps but would be fine with the current raids because they are mostly just harder versions of existing ones and the Ultimates are reused content.

    These probably take the least amount of time. Then we have stuff like Eureka...four huge new maps with new systems and it kinda was only played by a niche. That is the content imo that could be cut down to at least a lower size (half the maps for example) and would free some ressources for other things. Also I have barely any hope for the new Eureka...after seeing how they took the feedback from two Diadems and created THAT out of it..(I find Eureka to be worse than Diadem..)Who is to say that they will take our feedback and not just make another big niche content? And will it also again be the only big content for the expansion?

    In the end everyone sees content different. For me the characters and their looks are one of the more important parts of the game. Thus I would be fine with a delay of patches for some time if it means that we do get the missing genders and I would also be fine with a delay if we finally got something like a true glamour dresser with endless place. Others might disagree and that is fine! Just be civil and no such discussion directly about the game should be bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'm in agreement. Expanding the customisation options for the existing playable races would have been a much better idea. Fantasia sells like hotcakes, though...and although a free fantasia was offered alongside Heavensward to accompany the Au Ra, we're not getting a fantasia to accompany Viera women and Hrothgar men. Which is a little worrying for a number of reasons since I recall the early days of ARR and how often completely free perks were thrown at players who proved themselves loyal to the game through consistent subscriptions.
    Wait we dont get a free fantasia even though we get two new options? Wow...well SE with all the fantasy money you will earn you can buy more people for the QA thus faster release of the rest right? x)

    Honestly I would have taken a better character customization over these two new half races...
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    Last edited by Alleo; 05-11-2019 at 05:16 PM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    You're going to make male Viera a target with talk like this.

    This game is already far too slow in terms of updates, slowing it down would end it especially for something which is essentially glam.

    If you want support from more than a niche you shouldn't advocate for the rest of the game to suffer so that you get a thing you want, you're circling back around to selfish and entitled and it's only going to garner more heated opposition.
    Exactly. And the topic itself is so cheap (for just a glamour) I don't know anymore if it's a kind of fetish with those people enjoying getting bullied or just a total absence of interest about the game itself and its future and just willing to sit in Limsa and RP/ERP or showing off their glam. Glad dev team isn't going to feed this rotten side of the community, they're a few, but they're very vocal and I believe they think showing off their RP skills with their walls of text while trying to argument their reasons will help them to transform those from crap to cakes.

    Problem is even now Yoshi-P told people again this heinousness won't happen, they start to build their tricky RP castles in their own brains feeding something that doesn't exist in reality. Will be my last post on this thread as I am a gentleman wishing people not getting bullied and so wishing for this thread to disappear slowly in the next weeks/months.

    There's literally no in-game reasons to not get a gender-lock race. All those are extra and related to RP, ERP and glamour show-off nobody cares about (or should) when it comes to videogames. For sure doesn't help the game to get better, so stop with this #$*8%!
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    Last edited by Fei-yen; 05-12-2019 at 12:53 AM.

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    its interesting that people think yoshi recent statement was like a nail in the coffin to male viera and female Hroth
    but its still in the same place it was before that statement
    a definite maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fei-yen View Post
    Exactly. And the topic itself is so cheap (for just a glamour) I don't know anymore if it's a kind of fetish with those people enjoying getting bullied or just a total absence of interest about the game itself and its future and just willing to sit in Limsa and RP/ERP or showing off their glam. Glad dev team isn't going to feed this rotten side of the community, they're a few, but they're very vocal and I believe they think showing off their RP skills with their walls of text while trying to argument their reasons will help them to transform those from crap to cakes.

    Problem is even now Yoshi-P told people again this heinousness won't happen, they start to build their tricky RP castles in their own brains feeding something that doesn't exist in reality. Will be my last post on this thread as I am a gentleman wishing people not getting bullied and so wishing for this thread to disappear slowly in the next weeks/months.

    There's literally no in-game reasons to not get a gender-lock race. All those are extra and related to RP, ERP and glamour show-off nobody cares about (or should) when it comes to videogames. For sure doesn't help the game to get better, so stop with this #$*8%!
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