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    add more content to MSQ roulette

    in order to make msq roulette less awful there should be more endgame trials/dungeons/etc added. keeper of the lake, nidhogg, ala mhigo, seiryu, etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    in order to make msq roulette less awful there should be more endgame trials/dungeons/etc added. keeper of the lake, nidhogg, ala mhigo, seiryu, etc
    Those are available in other roulettes.
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    take them out of them then
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    I believe you've missed the point of MSQ roulette.
    The duties in there are the ONLY duties with long cutscenes that constantly play during the experience. While SE admitted this was a bad idea and has promised never to do this again since it created a disparity of people who were doing the story and wanting to watch them and people who were getting the dungeon and skipping it all to finish faster, they've kept them because they're arguably a enjoyable part of the story for first timers and the work to change them would be better used elsewhere. They were put into their own roulette and then later made all the cutscenes unskippable so that people couldn't be rushed through it. The roulette is there to help people finish MSQ. If you don't want to run those instances.. don't queue for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    take them out of them then
    no .. not with enforced Cs unless they remove that stupid move
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    take them out of them then
    No thanks. I want to enjoy Final Steps of Faith or Royal Menagerie in a Roulette where I don't chance spending an hour of my time trapped in unskippable cutscenes.

    I understand why they did what they did for MSQ Roulette, but when you get it in Mentor Roulette often and see even new players complaining about it, you start to wish they change them into Squadron or Trust dungeons in the future.
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    The thing is... The stuff in MSQ Roulette is intentionally limited.

    Due to the fact that they're the 2 MSQ necessary 8 man Dungeons that have about 5 years worth of cutscenes in them.

    This means that, not only do new players NEED to do them in order to progress the MSQ, but that they also need to get 8 people to do them as well as needing to be able to see the cutscenes for the story to make sense.

    Thus, they were isolated, into their own little Roulette and given unskippable cutscenes along with a fairly hefty Roulette bonus to entice players into running them despite the awfulness that is actually running them. In order to keep the queues for them populated and without them being the annoying dungeon you get in other roulettes that many people would insta-leave from (Just like happens in other games that have terrible dungeons...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    The thing is... The stuff in MSQ Roulette is intentionally limited.

    Due to the fact that they're the 2 MSQ necessary 8 man Dungeons that have about 5 years worth of cutscenes in them.

    This means that, not only do new players NEED to do them in order to progress the MSQ, but that they also need to get 8 people to do them as well as needing to be able to see the cutscenes for the story to make sense.

    Thus, they were isolated, into their own little Roulette and given unskippable cutscenes along with a fairly hefty Roulette bonus to entice players into running them despite the awfulness that is actually running them. In order to keep the queues for them populated and without them being the annoying dungeon you get in other roulettes that many people would insta-leave from (Just like happens in other games that have terrible dungeons...)
    ^This. The sole reason the MSQ roulette exists is to isolate Castrum and Prae so only people willing to do them can queue. Removing the cutscenes would also remove the compensation reward, making the roulette redundant.
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    Just delete the roulette instead. It keeps mucking up my mentor roulette with a wasted 30 minutes from withdraw.

    If I saw fit to watch the cutscene gallery, then I'd be wasting closer to an hour I could be spending with someone that actually needs more than my fairy as a main healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Just delete the roulette instead. It keeps mucking up my mentor roulette with a wasted 30 minutes from withdraw.

    If I saw fit to watch the cutscene gallery, then I'd be wasting closer to an hour I could be spending with someone that actually needs more than my fairy as a main healer.
    Stop running mentor roulette if you're not willing to run all of the contained duties.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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