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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbori View Post
    The message that it's bad comes from reading the ToS, not exploring the options menu.
    Yea but who reads the ToS? Seriously? I haven't seen a single one that wasn't excessively long. And often they're written in a manner that even native speakers of the language would find difficult to understand, because it's essentially a legal document. Not something designed to be easy to read for the end user.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Yea but who reads the ToS? Seriously? I haven't seen a single one that wasn't excessively long. And often they're written in a manner that even native speakers of the language would find difficult to understand, because it's essentially a legal document. Not something designed to be easy to read for the end user.
    Sure, but the rules apply regardless. Somehow I don't think "I didn't read the ToS, you can't ban me!" has ever changed a GM's mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbori View Post
    Sure, but the rules apply regardless. Somehow I don't think "I didn't read the ToS, you can't ban me!" has ever changed a GM's mind.
    No but my point is it's practically designed to make end users to not want to read it and if they do they may not even understand it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    No but my point is it's practically designed to make end users to not want to read it and if they do they may not even understand it.
    Welcome to all legal documents, contracts, EULAs, NDAs and any other forms of rules and regulations everywhere n_n

    The ToS is worded very deliberately as to allow the company's representatives to arbitrate with as much freedom as possible, change their minds later, and be protected from legal retribution if a user decided to get petty and take them to an actual court of law. Writing EULAs is an art most people fail to appreciate; nothing is in there without a good reason, and everything that is in there serves in some way to absolve the company of responsibility as much as legally possible.

    And on top of that, especially with software, some rules often exist just to comply with platform/store policies and licensing agreements derived from utilised technology, IP, etc. Sometimes the company doesn't even have a choice in the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbori View Post
    Welcome to all legal documents, contracts, EULAs, NDAs and any other forms of rules and regulations everywhere n_n

    The ToS is worded very deliberately as to allow the company's representatives to arbitrate with as much freedom as possible
    Exactly. Which becomes problematic when you got a company like SE who are at times exceptionally harsh with how they deal with harassment cases, but are not clear about what exactly counts as that behaviour and at times never bother to look at the context. This leaves players very confused, uneasy and at worst feeling betrayed.
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