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    IttyBittyShark's Avatar
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PFM View Post
    There is no such thing as insta pulling or early pulling.
    If you're late. You're late.
    Oh trust me, I am never late. The person I have a gripe with in particular does it explicitly to antagonize people.
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    Vyncent Nolan
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBittyShark View Post
    Oh trust me, I am never late. The person I have a gripe with in particular does it explicitly to antagonize people.
    If it's one person, tell the others on your server to git gud. Hundreds to thousands of "hunters" across the data center unable to compete with a single player lol
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    Decaflame Ronfaure
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    If it's one person, tell the others on your server to git gud. Hundreds to thousands of "hunters" across the data center unable to compete with a single player lol
    The problem, at least on Crystal DC, is that some of the insta-puller players use a third party tool that automatically notifies them when and exactly where S ranks spawn. They will always beat legitimate players to those spawns and pull them instantly. It's not like the other players aren't trying to get there - are you suggesting that they should also cheat in order to make it to the spawns?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeCrystarium View Post
    It's great when people wait for others to group up before a pull but honestly nobody is entitled to the kill. It's not reserved for anyone's chopping board. If someone reaches the hunt before you and pulls it then I say fair game. If someone pulls it while you are there and waiting for others to group up, the same point applies. Is it considered bad manners? Depends on who you ask I suppose. Personally I believe this sense of entitlement needs to die and burn in a fire. People are willing to hop worlds to find hunts while others sit on their ass waiting for a shout in linkshell and then cry when they get beaten to the punchline.
    I agree that nobody is entitled to a hunt, but wouldn't you agree that if someone puts in the work to spawn a hunt (like completing FATEs for an hour in Southern Thanalan) then the spirit of hunts is that they should be able to get to it and get credit for attacking it before someone else attacks and kills it?
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    Vyncent Nolan
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DecaflmeRonfaure View Post
    The problem, at least on Crystal DC, is that some of the insta-puller players use a third party tool that automatically notifies them when and exactly where S ranks spawn. They will always beat legitimate players to those spawns and pull them instantly. It's not like the other players aren't trying to get there - are you suggesting that they should also cheat in order to make it to the spawns?
    They already use them

    Quote Originally Posted by DecaflmeRonfaure View Post
    I agree that nobody is entitled to a hunt, but wouldn't you agree that if someone puts in the work to spawn a hunt (like completing FATEs for an hour in Southern Thanalan) then the spirit of hunts is that they should be able to get to it and get credit for attacking it before someone else attacks and kills it?
    It sucks, but you can always pass on Nunyunuwi and use your time more efficiently. If you're talking about hunts in general, then no. Many hunts have easy triggers that would occur automatically or with little effort if hunters waited until the max cooldown had passed before attempting a spawn.

    One hunter spends a few hours to spawn a hunt, but it wasn't off cd or rng didn't work in their favor, so no pop. A second hunter gets it to pop later with only a few minutes of effort. The first hunter is offline and gets no credit. Similar example that has nothing to do with trolls.
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    Rehl Tayuun
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    If it's one person, tell the others on your server to git gud. Hundreds to thousands of "hunters" across the data center unable to compete with a single player lol
    The thing is, though, that the pace of hunts is entirely dictated by whoever pulls first. When soloing any A-Ranks and ARR S-Ranks is 100% feasible, even if you were able to get the kind of coordination on a massive scale to get people to resist the prisoner’s dilemma situation with Hunt pulls, 75% of hunt marks being pulled won’t end in a solo player dying. Hunt competition is completely one-sided.
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