Demi-Summoner Idea

[Kalise]

It's not fanfiction, that's actually what happened. Ludonarrative is still narrative.

It is fanfiction.

Unless you can show me where in the quests, at any point, from level 30+ when you're doing Summoner job quests, your ability to summon Carbuncles is referenced.

Like I posted in the other thread, even the level 30 job quest, when you are first directed to Y'mhitra, she does not recognize you as anything other than someone whom has fought Ifrit.

Just like the Summoners you go on to train, also have no background in being Arcanists.

Throughout the job quests, there is no reference to your ability to summon anything other than the Egi summons and in fact, the "Summoner" summonings are considered unique (Thus, require a Soul Crystal) and not at all based around merely upgrading your Carbuncles.

Literally the only thing that references the ability to summon Egi and Carbuncles, is the (Non-canon) side quest for Egi-Glamours, where it's noted that since Egi are literally just summons made out of Primal aether, that you can thus mould them into any particular form you wish (With the only other form player character know, being Carbuncles). But again, as a side-quest, this is considered non-canon in addition, it's merely making a note that you can change the shape of Egi summons, not that you're "Upgrading" or "Empowering" your regular Carbuncle summons.

Unless you're next going to tell me that SCH's Fairies are "Upgrades" to Carbuncles, because "Ludonarrative is still narrative".

No, like you mentioned previously, Fairies are independent of Carbuncles, anyone with the right predication can summon a Fairy from a soul crystal.

The same is true with Egi. Egi's do not require the ability to summon Carbuncles. They just need someone with the right predication and location to initially summon it and then bind it to their will, with help of a soul crystal.

"Upgrading" of the Carbuncles is merely just gameplay because, at the time these jobs were created, classes "Evolving" into jobs was a thing. It's also why Arcanist itself is completely unlike literally any of its previous iterations in any Final Fantasy game whatsoever. Since, it was relegated to being a build up class for SCH and SMN jobs.

So, until you can provide proof, within the actual lore of the game (Which does not include "Ludonarrative" because there are PLENTY of things that are done purely for gameplay reasons which are non-canon) that Summoner requires knowledge of Arcanist's ability to summon Carbuncles in order to summon Egi, then this idea you have is pure fanfiction and thus has no bearing on actual discussions regarding lore.