Housing Issues

[Atheena]

Seems like that despite being an IT professionnal you can have half baked ideas as well, since such a system would only aggravate RMT (real money trading) problems in the game XD

Not really. As long as the Auction is controlled by them (SE) with them making housing Rare/Exclusive to your account/character, then that would combat RMT. If a player loses the house by not logging in, then SE can retain ownership after demolition. Have the Auction opened for a certain amount of hours like 4 and have no limit on how much that person pays for it. RMT's wont spend too much for it if it'sd rare/exclusive, that cuts into their gil that they could sell. Thery could also do like how the government gets contractors, take the 3 lowest tier, 3 mid tier, or 3 highest tier bids and have a bid off amongst those 3 to purchase. They could also do a first time buyers program for those who have never owned a house and make it soo they can't transfer plots for a year. Also when you auction for a house that money is tied up like a deposit if in the tier of 3.

[van_arn]

Not really. As long as the Auction is controlled by them (SE) with them making housing Rare/Exclusive to your account/character, then that would combat RMT. If a player loses the house by not logging in, then SE can retain ownership after demolition. Have the Auction opened for a certain amount of hours like 4 and have no limit on how much that person pays for it. RMT's wont spend too much for it if it'sd rare/exclusive, that cuts into their gil that they could sell. Thery could also do like how the government gets contractors, take the 3 lowest tier, 3 mid tier, or 3 highest tier bids and have a bid off amongst those 3 to purchase. They could also do a first time buyers program for those who have never owned a house and make it soo they can't transfer plots for a year. Also when you auction for a house that money is tied up like a deposit if in the tier of 3.

Not only that, but if you transfer your plot-- make it so rather than a flat 30% of the estate's value transfers, make it so you get the base value of your previous plot. You could spend 60 million on a small, and only get 4 million out of that when you transfer to medium or large.

That's 56 million gil just set on fire, which is absolutely beautiful if you want gil to become more scarce.

Bringing RMT in it, that's 56 million a player purchased through illegitimate means getting set on fire. RMT deterrent, supply/demand stabilization, and inflation protection all wrapped into one system.

Let's be honest though, a house on Balmung is worth more than 4 million. An auction system could be the healthiest way to resolve the system, without encouraging people to engage in unhealthy camping. The flipside could be if you want a cheap house, you'd be tempted to transfer to a server with lower population-- especially with the world visit system in place.

[Krotoan]

Not only that, but if you transfer your plot-- make it so rather than a flat 30% of the estate's value transfers, make it so you get the base value of your previous plot. You could spend 60 million on a small, and only get 4 million out of that when you transfer to medium or large.

That's 56 million gil just set on fire, which is absolutely beautiful if you want gil to become more scarce.

Bringing RMT in it, that's 56 million a player purchased through illegitimate means getting set on fire. RMT deterrent, supply/demand stabilization, and inflation protection all wrapped into one system.

Let's be honest though, a house on Balmung is worth more than 4 million. An auction system could be the healthiest way to resolve the system, without encouraging people to engage in unhealthy camping.

The problem is you're making large amounts of Gil necessary. People will BUY the gil from farmers, facilitating RMT.

Also you're unfairly giving buying power to those who stockpile gil. most players hover at sub medium house price levels of gil on any given character, how would a new player ever hope to compete with someone who's been in game from day one playing the markets?

[van_arn]

The problem is you're making large amounts of Gil necessary. People will BUY the gil from farmers, facilitating RMT.

Also you're unfairly giving buying power to those who stockpile gil. most players hover at sub medium house price levels of gil on any given character, how would a new player ever hope to compete with someone who's been in game from day one playing the markets?

Not everyone should have a house. Those that stockpile gil should be rewarded, and those that RMT should be banned.

Housing affords SE a fantastic honeypot to lure people into a large purchase that they can track the source of. If it's legitimate, then welcome to your new house. Otherwise, the plot's open again.

At the very least, housing is too cheap with all of the people I see camping at placards. Even if an auction system is not added, the starting prices do need to be raised substantially to discourage this unhealthy camping. Camping which is only as popular as it is because too many people can participate in it.

[Krotoan]

If it's a blind auction with random 3 buyers then no, How much gil you have will be worthless. Also forgot to add you can only do bids on one property at a time.

you can almost guarantee you will win if you are able to bid 100+ mil. Not worthless.

Not everyone should have a house. Those that stockpile gil should be rewarded

sorry, you won't ever get agreement from me or many others on this.
All aspects of this game should be available to those who wish to experience them, not only those those have hours and hours to invest.
The game is decidedly geared toward being able to pickup and play and put down when bored.

[Atheena]

you can almost guarantee you will win if you are able to bid 100+ mil. Not worthless.


sorry, you won't ever get agreement from me or many others on this.
All aspects of this game should be available to those who wish to experience them, not only those those have hours and hours to invest.
The game is decidedly geared toward being able to pickup and play and put down when bored.

They may win but that would be alot of gil to lose if they decided to want to trade plots or try to sell it (which they can't because it's exclusive to their accounts. . There are plenty of ways to get implement housing in the game, SE just refuses to put effort and resources into it.

[Krotoan]

They may win but that would be alot of gil to lose if they decided to want to trade plots or try to sell it (which they can't because it's exclusive to their accounts. . There are plenty of ways to get implement housing in the game, SE just refuses to put effort and resources into it.

It is a sizable chunk of Gil gone.. for most of us. To someone who's been playing the markets for a while it's very much not. There are several players out there who are actually capped in gil.

I personally wonder what SE thought was going to happen with such a limited resource that was highly desirable as well.. but they've put plenty of effort and resources into their decision. The problem isn't that they don't WANT everyone to have housing, it's their current system simply cannot support every player having a house.
Lets not concentrate on the wrong problem: Housing needs a new solution so everyone can participate.
The issue lies in letting everyone have access to the content without punishing those who put so much effort into the current system.

[Atheena]

The problem is you're making large amounts of Gil necessary. People will BUY the gil from farmers, facilitating RMT.

Also you're unfairly giving buying power to those who stockpile gil. most players hover at sub medium house price levels of gil on any given character, how would a new player ever hope to compete with someone who's been in game from day one playing the markets?

If it's a blind auction with random 3 buyers then no, How much gil you have will be worthless. Also forgot to add you can only do bids on one property at a time.