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    Have a feeling they are working towards systems in the expansion that make botting much harder to do especially with Crafters. They hinted at an endgame crafting system that's the equivalent of raids. Will be interesting to see what they come up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supergiz View Post
    Have a feeling they are working towards systems in the expansion that make botting much harder to do especially with Crafters. They hinted at an endgame crafting system that's the equivalent of raids. Will be interesting to see what they come up with.
    I'd like to hope, but I seriously doubt it if they can't even tell that someone who literally never logs off and is always crafting and/or gathering is botting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'd like to hope, but I seriously doubt it if they can't even tell that someone who literally never logs off and is always crafting and/or gathering is botting.
    What if they took a system like those mining minigames in the gold saucer. I imagine it's pretty dang hard to bot those successfully. Even harder if they combined it with timed nodes. Just add something very active on high value rare nodes that makes it very difficult if not impossible to bot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supergiz View Post
    What if they took a system like those mining minigames in the gold saucer. I imagine it's pretty dang hard to bot those successfully. Even harder if they combined it with timed nodes. Just add something very active on high value rare nodes that makes it very difficult if not impossible to bot.
    it is not hard, they simply do this 24/7 with a huge amount of bots and don't care about how much they get, they will simply always do 1 run and never go into "all in/double the amount"(or come up with a script that helps helps them get the most amount possible) like in the gold saucer games and still accumulate enough over time to drive the prices down. this would just make it harder on normal players. even if bots have to sell to npc, its still lucrative for them, ofc they sell on the mb because it works and they can get more gil faster.

    ppl saying rmt doesn't effect normal players... why do you think publisher/developer are constantly battling them and banning them, because its healthy for the game economy and normal players aren't affected?

    as to destroying the economy, i don't think it will really be destroyed or as bad as some imagine it to be. it always sux when the prices drop for what ever reason, but it also means that crafters will be able to also get some stuff much cheaper and wont need to invest the time to gather it themselves.

    i must say i find it a bit amusing that non crafters/gatherers are so happy about dropping prices, even thou it also means they will make less of a profit from their own things they try to sell on the mb and will even need more time to accumulate the needed gil to afford the really rare stuff which is expensive on all servers (rare glamour,furniture,mounts, etc).
    also the fact that a lot of ppl care so much about the economy on other servers, especially if they don't even play on those servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maneesha View Post

    ppl saying rmt doesn't effect normal players... why do you think publisher/developer are constantly battling them and banning them, because its healthy for the game economy and normal players aren't affected?
    Because companies don't want other companies profiting off their investments without a share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Because companies don't want other companies profiting off their investments without a share.
    I wish SE cared enough about people using their game as a source of income to start filing lawsuits, because pretty much all of the most popular botting programs are sub-based and thus profiting off of their product.


    Quote Originally Posted by supergiz View Post
    What if they took a system like those mining minigames in the gold saucer. I imagine it's pretty dang hard to bot those successfully. Even harder if they combined it with timed nodes. Just add something very active on high value rare nodes that makes it very difficult if not impossible to bot.
    Unfortunately, they can and do regularly bot those games to farm MGP already.

    Can't say how efficient they actually are at it, but I'm fairly convinced at this point that if people want to bot something badly enough, they'll find a way to do it.

    Not even mendacity mats are off-limits for them, as people are known to actually form parties of bots that spam instances for the sake of farming such.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 04-24-2019 at 05:17 PM.