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  1. #101
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    XiXiQ's Avatar
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    Xixi Eclipse
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    Ravana
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    People are lazy. They will use the MB rather than teleporting to an NPC already. It's hard to believe everyone will be spending an hour zooming from world to world for every purchase. Prices will equalise, not just drop.
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  2. #102
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    Vyncent Nolan
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I've heard people say money is useless in this game, so .. why are people so concerned with how fast they can make it?
    Big misconception. Gil is not needed for anything other than housing, but it's equivalent to time. You can engage in lengthy grinds (mounts, Eureka emotes, raid gear, achievements, etc.), or you can use Gil to bypass that grind. For those who don't care about the rules, it can be sold for real money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I have a question then, what exactly is having cheap crafts and materials hurting besides peoples Gil pile growth?
    It's being done through cheating.
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  3. #103
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    You know what won't be cheaper though? Rare drops. It just got a lot harder to get them for yourself, as their prices stay stable, but now it's hard to make the money for them now.
    For example, Night Pegasus whistles. I checked all servers on my data centre, and they are all around the same price. Gonna be harder to make money to buy one of those now :P
    Orr.. you could run the content for them? Like.. playing the game. And all the while slowly building Gil towards buying it if it never drops. Or farm some other rare drop to sell for the gil.

    If rare drops are unaffected you can farm them for gil to buy other rare drops.
    I am still unconvinced that this is more detriment than boon.
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  4. #104
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    Big misconception. Gil is not needed for anything other than housing, but it's equivalent to time. You can engage in lengthy grinds (mounts, Eureka emotes, raid gear, achievements, etc.), or you can use Gil to bypass that grind. For those who don't care about the rules, it can be sold for real money.


    It's being done through cheating.
    No it is not being done through cheating. Buying from a cheaper provider is part and parcel with any market.
    (1)
    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

  5. #105
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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    I don't have anyone to run PotD with, and since I have no experience with deep PotD, no parties will have me XD so I'll end up buying it eventually, just gonna be a lot harder for me and others with everything tanking in price.
    Also houses, gonna be harder for newer people to get money for houses now.
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  6. #106
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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    Big misconception. Gil is not needed for anything other than housing, but it's equivalent to time. You can engage in lengthy grinds (mounts, Eureka emotes, raid gear, achievements, etc.), or you can use Gil to bypass that grind. For those who don't care about the rules, it can be sold for real money.
    The gil is still available through intended systems like rare drops and quest rewards, you just can't profit as quickly off crafts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    It's being done through cheating.
    The cheating aspect is a whole other ball of wax though. People aren't mad because it's cheating, they're mad because it's cutting into their profits.
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  7. #107
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    I'm mad because they're cheating and because they're lowering the profit margin for people who don't already have a mountain of gil to sit on.

    I haven't bothered competing with them ever since I realized niche markets both reduce my competition from undercutters and can get me more gil for less time investment.
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  8. #108
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'm mad because they're cheating and because they're lowering the profit margin for people who don't already have a mountain of gil to sit on.

    I haven't bothered competing with them ever since I realized niche markets both avoid the issue of undercutters and can get me more gil for less time investment.
    What are you going to do with your mountain of gil once you've built it?
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  9. #109
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    Large houses are the biggest meaningful investment you can make with gil and you'd be surprised at how many people can't afford a medium still.

    This is going to be especially relevant with a new housing district being introduced in ShB.
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  10. #110
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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Large houses are the biggest meaningful investment you can make with gil and you'd be surprised at how many people can't afford a medium still.

    This is going to be especially relevant with a new housing district being introduced in ShB.
    25 Mil is hardly a mountain anymore though. it's been standardized and is a known quantity. If I put my mind to it I could easily build up that money in 2 months, crappy economy or no and with a minor investment of play time. Ignoring the fact that a large house for a single individual is.. excessive.

    People who want to amass wealth are still capable of it, but people who just need mats/gear aren't going to have to pay exorbitant amounts for that gear anymore.
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