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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I honestly don't see any reason it'd be any worse. Same number of bots. Either they'll spread out and everyone gets a dose, keeping low level mats and crafts low priced.. or they'll still concentrate and the problem hasn't changed.
    Okay, let me give you an example because you don't seem to be getting it.

    On one server, there's a bot that specialises in selling endgame gear dirt cheap, with very little profit. People could just transfer to other servers to avoid it.
    Some bots could specialise in selling potions for dirt cheap, with very little profit.
    Bots in certain areas and servers didn't affect servers without those specific bots.
    Now. They. Do.
    All servers, all endgame crafting areas. Money is now being fed to the bots from all servers, funding RWT activities. Ordinary people cannot compete.

    And this means that new crafters, just entering the scene are the worst off.
    They have to compete with all bots, whilst the other, older crafters have their large cashpile from when they didn't have to compete so much, can watch as everything falls in price, making their cashpile more valuable.
    Bots win.
    Everyone else thinks they win because of Lower prices, but they'll never have the cash piles the older crafters, or the bots have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    Okay, let me give you an example because you don't seem to be getting it.

    On one server, there's a bot that specialises in selling endgame gear dirt cheap, with very little profit. People could just transfer to other servers to avoid it.
    Some bots could specialise in selling potions for dirt cheap, with very little profit.
    Bots in certain areas and servers didn't affect servers without those specific bots.
    Now. They. Do.
    All servers, all endgame crafting areas. Money is now being fed to the bots from all servers, funding RWT activities. Ordinary people cannot compete.

    And this means that new crafters, just entering the scene are the worst off.
    They have to compete with all bots, whilst the other, older crafters have their large cashpile from when they didn't have to compete so much, can watch as everything falls in price, making their cashpile more valuable.
    Bots win.
    Everyone else thinks they win because of Lower prices, but they'll never have the cash piles the older crafters have.
    But the materials will be cheaper anyway. So they'll be able to level their crafting just as quickly for far less investment. unless your goal is amassing Gil, this isn't a detriment to new crafters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    But the materials will be cheaper anyway. So they'll be able to level their crafting just as quickly for far less investment. unless your goal is amassing Gil, this isn't a detriment to new crafters.
    You know what won't be cheaper though? Rare drops. It just got a lot harder to get them for yourself, as their prices stay stable, but now it's hard to make the money for them now.
    For example, Night Pegasus whistles. I checked all servers on my data centre, and they are all around the same price. Gonna be harder to make money to buy one of those now :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    You know what won't be cheaper though? Rare drops. It just got a lot harder to get them for yourself, as their prices stay stable, but now it's hard to make the money for them now.
    For example, Night Pegasus whistles. I checked all servers on my data centre, and they are all around the same price. Gonna be harder to make money to buy one of those now :P
    Orr.. you could run the content for them? Like.. playing the game. And all the while slowly building Gil towards buying it if it never drops. Or farm some other rare drop to sell for the gil.

    If rare drops are unaffected you can farm them for gil to buy other rare drops.
    I am still unconvinced that this is more detriment than boon.
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