Tank entitlement vs group entitlement

[cicatriz313]

SE would consider anything okay as long as people are playing the game. Like asking people to know that aoes are good in large groups shouldn't be a toxic elitist 5% of the population kind of thing. It should be common knowledge at level 70 at the least. It's weird to me how people are defending poor play as if it's the norm when most runs I've seen since like late 2.x have been pull big and aoe. Enough so that people complain about how every dungeon is the same situation. So if the norm is to do large pulls and someone refuses to do the norm are they not holding back other people?

It is. But when looking at time to kill if the time still takes longer than you could of killed 3 separate packs then it is a net loss in efficiency. It also assumes that the aoes are hitting all targets and we know that does not always happen. So again it is not a one size fits all scenario. I have no problem with large pulls or smalls. Making things go boom is what I do unless I am healing. We are talking about the aggressive behavior that comes from some players because optimal isn’t happening and treating people like robots. You can not ignore the human component. Even the best screw up.

Well that's a completely different argument than you were making before lol. You said specifically you were not getting more damage in potency which... you are. No matter how you look at it. And is it possible for large groups to die slower than 3 separate pulls? There's a chance, sure. But I would argue in MOST cases, like 95+% of cases it's significantly faster to kill in a large group because every gcd you're spending is hitting that many more mobs, and then you have to worry about ramp up time for a lot of jobs. Then you take into account things like blood accumulation on drk, shield swipe on pld, being able to spend all your ogcds in one pull rather than waiting between 3 pulls etc. There are way more reasons to do large pulls when adequately geared than there is not to. That's why it's the norm. Also if you're betting on people to screw up, efficiency isn't even part of the discussion.