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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    I still think it's hilarious how this little argument is going on...

    "No other DPS is as capable at tanking and pumping out heals as BLU"

    Yeah, no shit. No other DPS was designed so as to not be able to be part of normal groups and then was created in a way so as to be able to do meme groups with 4/8 of the same job.

    Literally the reason why BLU has a Tank stance is because it was designed to participate in meme parties full of BLU so someone has to "Tank"

    Literally the reason why BLU has such (Potentially) high healing output is because it was designed to participate in meme parties full of BLU so there needs to be healing (Also, with everyone being able to use WW it helps mitigate the fact that it becomes terrible when the user is low on HP due to if multiple people cast it you get exponential increase of healing output I.e. 5% max life > 10% max life > 20% max life > 40% max life oh look everyone's full)

    BLU didn't have to be designed around meme compositions. If it wasn't you can be damn sure that Mighty Guard would just be a CD skill similar to BRD's Troubadour granting mitigation (Or a replica of Tank T2 LB which was called Mighty Guard until BLU was implemented). You'd also be unlikely to see them with White Wind in its current iteration, either the skill would have a cooldown or the healing output would be dramatically less.

    Saying "OMG look how OP they are, they can do meme compositions! So stronk!" is not a convincing argument when this is due to intentional design choices that were made AFTER having already excluded them from duties.

    It's not like Mighty Guard and White Wind were made in their current iteration and then the Devs were like "Well, crap... Seems like they might not fit into normal parties... Better limit the job!" no, it was literally the other way around where they already made the decision to limit the job and were like "Huh... What can we do to let players do anything at all with the job? Oh, maybe we can let them do meme compositions! Lets make some silly Tank Stance and Healing skills!"
    they were designed differently from other dps, is my point. People claim they are normal dps, with close to normal balance. Yes its obvious they designed blu differently because they werent going to be used in parties which always had duty finder roles, and thats one of the things that makes it entertaining. Blu can adapt to all sorts of crazy situations, on the fly, they look at a fight tactically, and have a variety of different ways to deal with dps/heals/mitigation, instead of standard seperation.

    to be clear my view has never been it would be impossible to make some job, call it a blue mage and make it into anything they wanted it to be. My view is that by being seperate from duty finder blue creates unique choices, playstyles, party compositions, and greater potential, while staying truer to the common concepts of what blue mage is about, than if it had to be a regular duty finder dps, with all the design choices SE requires for duty finder standard roles.


    and because of this, its more fun, i look forward to them growing and expanding, and cant wait for more jobs that break the mold. Finally classes not designed to deficient at recovery,mitigation, or damage for the sake of the duty finder.


    its a bit odd to call it a meme Group, when as you pointed out, they are designed to be able to take on high end content in all sorts of different party compositions. This isnt an accident of fate for kicks, this is the versatility designed into the class.
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    Last edited by Physic; 04-15-2019 at 01:34 AM.

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