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  1. #1481
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    Quote Originally Posted by BubblyBoar View Post
    What duty finder content would I be playing with only one healer aside from 4 man dungeons? What I'm saying is that a normal healer would do the job better than anything a BLU could try to do. That GCD matters. Because in the flash of an instant, other healers can get that tank healed back up without using a GCD at all. That makes them better than BLU by default. If you think they are doing that with Cure 2, you obviously don't play healer very much. Use, BLU can be a part of an all BLU comp and heal it. So can WARs. But BLU is not a healer just like WAR is not a healer. A single spell does not make BLU a healer even if it gives you a bring heal number. Things like overheal and GCD use matters. You heal what is needed using the variety of tools you have. BLU is a DPS, just straight up.

    well you could use 2 blues, or a rdm and a blue. or a healer who does dps, and just uses emergency cures. The point of bringing up cure II is its their max heal spammable cure, whuch sets the upper limit of what they can heal through. The video i linked shows blu is more than capable of going through endgame content without a tank or healer, that is not something other dps can do. Which means, saying they are just dps is not that accurate

    the fact that healers have a lot of heal spells is irrelevant the question has always been who is capable of doing this role in this content, with success.


    Also, the vast majority of players dont even do savage level content. So they wouldnt even need to work that hard. In regular content they would just freeze groups and dps them down.
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  2. #1482
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    If only this thread could have blown up as massively as the Male Viera one, huh? Nice to see where the priorities of the OF truly lie. :P

    (Disclaimer: I have no strong leanings towards BLU nor the topic of Male Viera, just making a small observation.)
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  3. #1483
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcari View Post
    If only this thread could have blown up as massively as the Male Viera one, huh? Nice to see where the priorities of the OF truly lie. :P

    (Disclaimer: I have no strong leanings towards BLU nor the topic of Male Viera, just making a small observation.)
    People care more about aesthetics than actual gameplay. It's why EU this year for example got all the art stuff because we care more about glamour.
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  4. #1484
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    Hatching Tide event will have a longer life than Blu.
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  5. #1485
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcari View Post
    If only this thread could have blown up as massively as the Male Viera one, huh? Nice to see where the priorities of the OF truly lie. :P

    (Disclaimer: I have no strong leanings towards BLU nor the topic of Male Viera, just making a small observation.)
    Eh, Yoshida's been clear they have no intention on changing course on BLU until whatever content they have planned for 5.1 drops, and there were a lot more "BUT LIMITED BLU'S FUN!!!" counter arguments when it first came out. Coupled with the fact that apparently BLU was a "success" because people got it to 50 on release and I doubt no matter how big this thread blew up it would get 0 acknowledgement from the dev team.

    It just sucks.
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    It's times like this I wish SE had in-game polls about what we think of the different aspects of the game, to get more qualitative answers (even though it'll be locked to set answers) to get a better understanding of their community instead of just looking at people leveling BLU to 50 and going "the chart says this so it must be a success". Maybe if SE had more ways to engage with the community because guess even the Official Forums isn't enough.

    Speaking of which, there should be much harder pressing on Yoshi saying they'll be more "harder" content for BLU. Not fun, not engaging, relevant, having BLU have purpose and not be a street performer or free Return, just the difficulty amped up. Aka, most likely more Masked Carnival stages with tougher RNG to get through and strict set battles each time and maybe a bit extra on the side. For me, it's like a further punch it the face because it sounds like the experience will be even less enjoyable and totally misunderstanding or at worst ignoring and being ignorant of the feedback because of inside-the-box-only thinking Yoshi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    Eh, Yoshida's been clear they have no intention on changing course on BLU until whatever content they have planned for 5.1 drops, and there were a lot more "BUT LIMITED BLU'S FUN!!!" counter arguments when it first came out. Coupled with the fact that apparently BLU was a "success" because people got it to 50 on release and I doubt no matter how big this thread blew up it would get 0 acknowledgement from the dev team.

    It just sucks.
    Do those same people even play BLU anymore? Like, not just for RP or just hanging out in Limsa? I don't get why these people want to have a job Limited when it has no purpose and has as much use as Lords of Verminion (which btw, is far more new and original than Limited BLU will ever be).
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenericMagus View Post
    Do those same people even play BLU anymore? Like, not just for RP or just hanging out in Limsa? I don't get why these people want to have a job Limited when it has no purpose and has as much use as Lords of Verminion (which btw, is far more new and original than Limited BLU will ever be).
    No idea but I doubt it, I have no idea the appeal but from the arguments people have used it's the fact that it's "not like other jobs and making it like other jobs would ruin what makes blue mage blue mage" whatever that means. I guess they just like waiting.
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  9. #1489
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenericMagus View Post
    Do those same people even play BLU anymore? Like, not just for RP or just hanging out in Limsa? I don't get why these people want to have a job Limited when it has no purpose and has as much use as Lords of Verminion (which btw, is far more new and original than Limited BLU will ever be).
    its only at 50 cap currently, not much to do with that. Note that very few people are saying it doesnt need to grow, change, or expand. Merely that it has potential.
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  10. #1490
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    8 blus clearing the some of the hardest content at 50 on level cap. And, if they beat it without missile working at some point, i dont think they would have a problem if it didnt proc. They use it because its there, if it wasnt there, they would use a different technique.

    regardless, its clear from that video, they can tank, and heal, and dps endgame content. And this is just with thier level 50 skillset.


    also, it interesting how those useless skills you talked about are apparently useful in endgame content
    I said it was useless in endgame because i didnt know there was a literal exploit that made it useful? My points still stand about other skills.

    And yeah they used missle instead of tail screw, but if neither of those worked i dont think they could have cleared it, dps wouldnt be high enough. Also just using tail screw wouldnt make blu op because saying blu is op because they can survive due to 8 blues spamming rng is like saying 8 scholars would be op because they could spam adlo to survive tank busters. Sure youd get a clear with a very dedicated team, but a very dedicated team can do memey stuff with current classes in current content
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    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
    Ultimate Completion Rate ~1% of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to the hardcore raiders"
    Frontline/ Rival Wings/ Hidden Gorge Mount Aquisition ~0.05-1% of active players. Community: "Ugh PVP is so dead in this game, they should stop investing in it"
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