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    Quote Originally Posted by BubblyBoar View Post
    Spamming Cure 2 is not playing a healer correctly. In fact, tossing out the insta heals is exactly how you play healer will in FFXIV. Spamming your most potent heal is a waste the majority of the time. Even in basic content in dungeons, this is the case. I can go through must casual dungeons without using a single GCD heal spell because healers are effective at their jobs. BLU is not. Just because it has a big number heal doesn't mean it is a healer. It lacks healer tools, full stop. The same goes for tanking. Lvl 50 content is extremely basic and most of it can be brute forced. Saying that a BLU can tank or heal in it doesn't make it a tank or a healer. It IS a DPS, even the game defines it as such. Saying that it's not is just denying reality at this point.


    That said, those that want BLU in normal content and able to be in the DF are perfectly fine with the outrageous stuff like missile and tail screw to be banned from that content.

    i am not saying you should play a regular healer the way you play blue mage, i am saying blue mage can do the job with the skills they have.






    and bahamut/coils is not basic, its savage level content. Also, blu mage is only 50 right now, it will have more abilities later.


    And yeah, they can ban every skill from blue mage that isnt a generic damage skill, and then it will be crap. But regardless SE has no intention of balancing a job for duty finder, and outside duty finder. They already decided not do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    i am not saying you should play a regular healer the way you play blue mage, i am saying blue mage can do the job with the skills they have.






    and bahamut/coils is not basic, its savage level content. Also, blu mage is only 50 right now, it will have more abilities later.


    And yeah, they can ban every skill from blue mage that isnt a generic damage skill, and then it will be crap. But regardless SE has no intention of balancing a job for duty finder, and outside duty finder. They already decided not do it.



    Except that it can't, I provided those examples earlier in our conversation. In fact, BLU can't do most of what a healer needs to do. A BLU can't remove your debuffs. It can't get you to full from one HP, it can't rez you, it cant provide regens, it can't provide shields, it cant cast a protect. The only thing it CAN do is waste a GCD to cast an AoE heal as long as it had a decent amount of HP left. Those situations are extremely limited and not conducive to what a healer needs to do. Lvl 50 content does not reveal this fact because it has far fewer healer mechanics than expansion content.



    Not every skill that isn't a damage skill needs to be disallowed from the DF, just the obviously broken stuff. It's like you don't know how the roles in FFXIV work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BubblyBoar View Post
    Except that it can't, I provided those examples earlier in our conversation. In fact, BLU can't do most of what a healer needs to do. A BLU can't remove your debuffs. It can't get you to full from one HP, it can't rez you, it cant provide regens, it can't provide shields, it cant cast a protect. The only thing it CAN do is waste a GCD to cast an AoE heal as long as it had a decent amount of HP left. Those situations are extremely limited and not conducive to what a healer needs to do. Lvl 50 content does not reveal this fact because it has far fewer healer mechanics than expansion content.



    Not every skill that isn't a damage skill needs to be disallowed from the DF, just the obviously broken stuff. It's like you don't know how the roles in FFXIV work.
    Eehhh your concept of balance, job design, auto grouping, etc seems to be drastically different than SE's. I dont things would work out the way you seem to be presenting in your ideas.
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