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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaywalker View Post
    With you on this! I'm not positive, but I think we might just have different stances on whether or not it would be fine to unlock the genders later? IMO it's very workable and just offers them an opportunity in the wings they can develop at their own pace. Would also bring new silhouettes/to the table for a fun range in character models, which from a design standpoint could be a lot of fun. And again, there's loads of precedence even on the lore front. If this was some soul-destroying task where there was literally zero joy for devs then yeah I agree they shouldn't do it. However, as a creator that seriously would be beyond bizarre and IMO undermine their skill, professionalism, and passion.

    There have been stories and characters I undertook that initially I was unenthusiastic about. However, I'm also confident that can take those and make them into something really exciting and fun in my own way while maintaining concept integrity. SE creators have more experience and accomplishments than I do while being hugely disciplined. It feels like it would be selling them short to expect anything less, much less on a massive scale.
    Honestly it doesn't matter to me whether or not they roll out the other genders, I'd be happy either way.

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    Afaik a big reason against modding is the potential to glitch stuff out? I did hear that if ex. it's a minor glamour mod that doesn't scandalize, cause technical difficulties, or get waved in a GM's face they tend to not prioritize it as highly as other issues. Think I heard it mentioned that they get it's basically people into artistic aspects of the game. I'm mostly neutral on the subject as long as it doesn't impose on others and figure it's not my place to decide. I don't really see it on my server at any rate.
    I think the main reason modding is essentially "forbidden" in these types of games is because it could potentially give those players unfair advantages over others, same with botting. That and it kinda ruins the spirit of multiplayer gaming, at least in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaywalker View Post
    I did hear about Sword Art Online, but my understanding is...

    1) It's viewed as extremely unlikely to find traction in Japan, which is frankly way more sex-positive and into social norms than the West

    2) This is being treated as weird to the point of being a drop in the ocean.

    3) I've heard some recent stories about mangakas behind hugely controversial works being confronted by Westerners about addressing criticism. This was seriously next level edgy storytelling from what I've heard, not something where it's just the hypersensitive uncomfortable. The mangaka literally looked at the questioner and replied "there is no criticism". If there's none in Japan it might as well not exist. I might be able to re-find what the title was, heard about this incident from a friend

    4) Seriously look at the racier stuff that is totally normalized in Japan, the West has never been at that level.

    5) Look at how Western extremist propaganda works are received in Asia. Look at commentary those types of stories receive and how little money they make. I'm not just talking animation. Look at live action films. The general public in Asia does not have patience for this.

    6) I really can't name names, but suffice to say there's a Western-extremism-spawned controversy happening right now where major anime companies are involved. The Japanese business side of things has been indicating more and more that they are pissed about it. And I don't mean pissed because needs more extreme political correctness.

    Also, just to be clear--I'm not saying any of this to be weeby, imply there are no issues in Asian media, or poo-poo Western media across the board. There are different issues manifesting prominently in Asian media that I hope they can address, but overall they're doing WAY better. I personally look at Asia-based creators as colleagues and a standard to match or surpass. Have enormous respect for them, and I seriously want people to bring a higher standard here.
    1-2. I certainly hope so

    3-5. I've heard about that too and I applaud them every time I do.

    6. I think I know what you're referring too and I've heard that it's getting to the point where the publisher is considering pulling the NA licensing and doing the dubbing in house.

    So far Western media isn't entirely borked. We've still got a few beacons of hope in the different industries and I hope saner heads will prevail in the long run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Honestly it doesn't matter to me whether or not they roll out the other genders, I'd be happy either way.
    Seems fair to me!

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    I think the main reason modding is essentially "forbidden" in these types of games is because it could potentially give those players unfair advantages over others, same with botting. That and it kinda ruins the spirit of multiplayer gaming, at least in my opinion.
    I sort of get that, just don't totally agree with respect to glamour mods. Most games I play on console so I don't have access to mods there anyway. Most aren't multiplayer and in cases where other people can mod and I can't I've been framing it as a kind of fun challenge to accomplish as much as possible within limits for design. Still love seeing what other people can come up with, but I get the sense sometimes people get bitter and jealous instead.

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    6. I think I know what you're referring too and I've heard that it's getting to the point where the publisher is considering pulling the NA licensing and doing the dubbing in house.
    I heard about the license pull but not the in-house dubbing. Honestly more power to them. As much of a mess as it's been if this is an eye-opener about what's going on that's something at least. That plus dishonest people being held to account and innocent people finding support. The public should be receiving transparency in the near future at any rate, which hopefully can help prevent further nonsense.

    Also, I hope this stuff was reassuring at least to some degree! These situations can be alarming but I think people across the board are realizing it's gotten too crazy and miserable for all involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    So far Western media isn't entirely borked. We've still got a few beacons of hope in the different industries and I hope saner heads will prevail in the long run.
    Same! Hopefully there'll be opportunity for healthier and more sincere media to crop up going forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaywalker View Post
    I sort of get that, just don't totally agree with respect to glamour mods. Most games I play on console so I don't have access to mods there anyway. Most aren't multiplayer and in cases where other people can mod and I can't I've been framing it as a kind of fun challenge to accomplish as much as possible within limits for design. Still love seeing what other people can come up with, but I get the sense sometimes people get bitter and jealous instead.
    I wouldn't say jealousy exactly, maybe for some people, but it's more of a ruining of a fun experience. It'd be like playing GTA5 Online and someone keeps killing you over and over and you can't fight back because they've got invincibility. Something like that wouldn't be fun. As for glamour mods: I could see overlooking those as long as it didn't affect other people. In the case of single player games no-one cares if you cheat in those because they're soley for your own entertainment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaywalker View Post
    I heard about the license pull but not the in-house dubbing. Honestly more power to them. As much of a mess as it's been if this is an eye-opener about what's going on that's something at least. That plus dishonest people being held to account and innocent people finding support. The public should be receiving transparency in the near future at any rate, which hopefully can help prevent further nonsense.
    I hope it happens soon because I just watched a video today about how this incident is spilling over into the YouTube sphere and a certain 'Tuber is being harassed. The people involved are even going after that person's kid. These people are disturbed and they need to be stopped.

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    Same! Hopefully there'll be opportunity for healthier and more sincere media to crop up going forward.
    Absolutely!

    On a slightly related note, you said you were a creator. I was just wondering if you had any tips for motivation. I got my hands on a game engine off of Steam and I've been sitting on it because the idea of using it seems daunting. I have ideas about things I want to make, but the thought of what I need to do to make them a reality is terrifying.
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