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    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    If cheesing ilvl to manipulate roulette outcomes is against the ToS due to being "disruptive", then people queuing into content as classes after level 30 is the same thing.

    Also, this whole GM thing, I want proof. There has never, ever been a case, to my knowledge, of a GM telling someone that another player has been punished, and how. So provide that proof, otherwise...


    i don't have to provide proof. it doesn't matter if people believe me on that or not. and it besides the point... proof or not on that claim, it doesn't change the situation that people abuse the roulette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY View Post
    i don't have to provide proof. it doesn't matter if people believe me on that or not. and it besides the point... proof or not, it doesn't change the situation that people abuse the roulette.
    So you make a baseless claim and refuse to provide proof? Ok, so you're lying, end of discussion.

    Why do you even care? You queue into a roulette but get mad if you don't get a specific instance? Do you do the same thing if you don't get Seiryu in Trial Roulette? Or an Alphascape in Raid Roulette?

    If you want to do a specific instance, you queue directly for it, never bank on a roulette putting you in there. You're just petty, that's all this boils down to.
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    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    So you make a baseless claim and refuse to provide proof? Ok, so you're lying, end of discussion.

    Why do you even care? You queue into a roulette but get mad if you don't get a specific instance? Do you do the same thing if you don't get Seiryu in Trial Roulette? Or an Alphascape in Raid Roulette?

    If you want to do a specific instance, you queue directly for it, never bank on a roulette putting you in there. You're just petty, that's all this boils down to.
    i wasn't getting mad about it, and play through whatever content a Roulette gives me.

    and there's absolutely nothing petty about wanting to prevent people from abusing the roulette.

    and true, if you want to play specific content queue for it. however, having to queue for an Alliance Raid in specific to snag your weekly loot is less likely when hitting up the roulette each day.



    it really doesn't matter what counter-argument people make. it won't change the fact people abuse the roulette. and it won't change the fact that this has an impact on up to 23 other people that they are grouped with. again, something should be done to prevent abusing the roulette. that is all i am saying.


    is there really something sooo wrong with wanting to prevent people from abusing the roulette?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY View Post
    i wasn't getting mad about it, and play through whatever content a Roulette gives me.

    and there's absolutely nothing petty about wanting to prevent people from abusing the roulette.

    and true, if you want to play specific content queue for it. however, having to queue for an Alliance Raid in specific to snag your weekly loot is less likely when hitting up the roulette each day.



    it really doesn't matter what counter-argument people make. it won't change the fact people abuse the roulette. and it won't change the fact that this has an impact on up to 23 other people they are grouped with. again, something should be done to prevent abusing the roulette. that is all i am saying.


    is there really something sooo wrong with wanting to prevent people from abusing the roulette?
    But it doesn't impact 23 other people, you don't get it. By queueing into a roulette, everyone agrees to accept what result they get. Everyone gets the same roulette bonus rewards at the end of the run, regardless of which raid it is. I fail to see the issue here.
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    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    But it doesn't impact 23 other people, you don't get it. By queueing into a roulette, everyone agrees to accept what result they get. Everyone gets the same roulette bonus rewards at the end of the run, regardless of which raid it is. I fail to see the issue here.
    the issue is that while doing your daily roulette throughout the week, there is a rather good chance you get a raid that is actually relevant to your level of progress within the game.

    so, when you go through the week and don't get that, you have to wait for what could be a 30+ minute queue for selecting one alliance raid in particular.

    so yes, this does have an impact on others. it isn't right for people to abuse/manipulate the roulette by doing this type of thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY View Post
    the issue is that while doing your daily roulette throughout the week, there is a rather good chance you get a raid that is actually relevant to your level of progress within the game.

    so, when you go through the week and don't get that, you have to wait for what could be a 30+ minute queue for selecting one alliance raid in particular.

    so yes, this does have an impact on others. it isn't right for people to abuse/manipulate the roulette by doing this type of thing.
    I don't know about anyone else, but I personally wouldn't place my faith into a roulette to put me in Orbonne every week, I would just queue for it.
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    If this is true, I don't know why people would even wanna do that. For quick and easy rewards, I guess... But the Legacy of Allag and everything else except Orbonne are all boring because the iLVLs cap way too high.

    My last roulette I got Syrcus Tower, someone groaned and called it a snooze. Maybe if they kept the raids at least similar challenge as each other, it might not be worth exploiting the DF?
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    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonuel View Post
    If this is true, I don't know why people would even wanna do that. For quick and easy rewards, I guess... But the Legacy of Allag and everything else except Orbonne are all boring because the iLVLs cap way too high.

    My last roulette I got Syrcus Tower, someone groaned and called it a snooze. Maybe if they kept the raids at least similar challenge as each other, it might not be worth exploiting the DF?
    maybe. there is always a possible solution in that, but i think this avenue has already been explored as a different topic of discussion for different reasons in the past. if i recall correctly, SE wants it so quicker clears can be made. this way, if we do happen to get a low-level instance, peeps can hurry on through to the next thing on their list.

    i have played so many MMORPG, and some of them just set up to consume all your time completing daily/weekly task. some are so bad to the point that, by time you do finish, you have only 2 days left to do anything else. one thing i can happily say that hasn't been a problem in this game.
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