Viera and Hrothgar clans detailed on official site

[Rollout]

On an unrelated note to lore, they changed the face on the render for the Lost example of the Hrothgar.
Someone on reddit posted a side-by-side of the face from yesterday and this morning: https://i.redd.it/y09x0jws0tr21.jpg

[Senn]

On an unrelated note to lore, the changed the face of the render for the Lost example of the Hrothgar.
Someone on reddit posted a side-by-side of the face from yesterday and this morning: https://i.redd.it/y09x0jws0tr21.jpg

How could they do something like this so quickly? I've always assumed making changes like this was very time consuming.

edit:
on second thought, maybe they just changed the customization options? like they picked a different face and ears?

[Halivel]

On an unrelated note to lore, they changed the face on the render for the Lost example of the Hrothgar.
Someone on reddit posted a side-by-side of the face from yesterday and this morning: https://i.redd.it/y09x0jws0tr21.jpg

that's... interesting. What kind of customization we will have!?

[Daralii]

How could they do something like this so quickly? I've always assumed making changes like this was very time consuming.

edit:
on second thought, maybe they just changed the customization options? like they picked a different face and ears?

Could be from a different build, could be shopped so that there isn't clipping in a promotional still. We've known since Tokyo that the Hrothgar are still very much works in progress, with the models only having reached a presentable state just before the event.

The ears in the left version look more canine than leonine, which makes me think their customization just isn't finished and the head ended up with mismatched ears.

[Penthea]

Not all black people are particularly dark skinned though, so how do you tell who is or isn't supposed to portray a black person? I'm black IRL but i'm lighter than M'naago or Fran. Can Fran be considered a black female? She's close to Beyonce's complexion but honestly, still darker.

I personally don't think skin colour is enough to make someone a specific race. Facial features are needed to make someone seem like they're african, indian, caucasian, eastern asian, etc.

But this doesn't change the fact that among the major characters in the game, dark skinned characters are very much in the minority. Among the major characters in the scions having dark hair is rare, and the ones with the darkest skin just look tanned (aside from Louisoix but he's dead so we never see him). SE seem to be very fond of pale skin and very pale hair.

What gets me about this, aside from racial representation, is that it's such a shame that SE have created races to have a tremendous amount of colour variation in hair and skin, but when it comes to really major characters we usually see the same sort of colour palettes over and over again. It kind of makes me feel like they're not using their own character creation tools to their fullest.

[Gula]

I personally don't think skin colour is enough to make someone a specific race. Facial features are needed to make someone seem like they're african, indian, caucasian, eastern asian, etc.

But this doesn't change the fact that among the major characters in the game, dark skinned characters are very much in the minority. Among the major characters in the scions having dark hair is rare, and the ones with the darkest skin just look tanned (aside from Louisoix but he's dead so we never see him). SE seem to be very fond of pale skin and very pale hair.

What gets me about this, aside from racial representation, is that it's such a shame that SE have created races to have a tremendous amount of colour variation in hair and skin, but when it comes to really major characters we usually see the same sort of colour palettes over and over again. It kind of makes me feel like they're not using their own character creation tools to their fullest.

If SE is so fond of fair hair why is Lara Croft a brunette? I think you should not recognize Square Enix as a singular entity only associated with XIV. Because there's the cast of all the other FFs as well as KH and non JP titles. You need to recognize the character designers, not the whooole company. For example, Nomura and blue eyes. Look at the cast of KH. Variety of hair colors, but all pale with blue eyes. That's Nomura not SE. I think Goth Hammer-chan even had light eyes but I don't remember.

[Colino]

* I said there weren't any important black female NPCs. Obviously an opinion, again from my POV.

No, you didn't:

Enough mental gymnastics. It looks racist to not be able to include any black females in the game, especially when one of the blondest whitest girls' dad is black. They can improve a lot. Periodt.

Had you used more reasonable language you wouldn't have had any backlash to begin with. You can backtrack now all you want but "casual racism" is just as bad as casually calling someone racist like you did multiple times.

I'm glad other people have expressed the mild annoyance at how the Hrothgar lore is explained. Like really, grrr...

I'm sure (hopeful) the game will do a much better job. For me, I just can't tell the difference to be honest. Like why are they actually two separate clans other than for gameplay purposes? o_o

[Nonuel]

This was my very first and unedited post in this thread:

I noticed they seem to have an aversion to including really dark-skinned females, in particular. We still have more dark-skinned males than females. The best example that comes to mind is M'naago, and she's not even that dark-skinned.

I'm sure (hopeful) the game will do a much better job. For me, I just can't tell the difference to be honest. Like why are they actually two separate clans other than for gameplay purposes? o_o

With that I agree.

[Corue]

On an unrelated note to lore, they changed the face on the render for the Lost example of the Hrothgar.
Someone on reddit posted a side-by-side of the face from yesterday and this morning: https://i.redd.it/y09x0jws0tr21.jpg

You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about.

[Beki_Bayaqad]

If SE is so fond of fair hair why is Lara Croft a brunette? I think you should not recognize Square Enix as a singular entity only associated with XIV. Because there's the cast of all the other FFs as well as KH and non JP titles. You need to recognize the character designers, not the whooole company. For example, Nomura and blue eyes. Look at the cast of KH. Variety of hair colors, but all pale with blue eyes. That's Nomura not SE. I think Goth Hammer-chan even had light eyes but I don't remember.

Because she was made by Core Designs, a British company.