Viera and Hrothgar clans detailed on official site

[MagiusNecros]

The Lost seem interesting. Will need to see their customization options though.

If you can make them feral and Werewolf badass I may consider shapeshifting but I'll likely do what I usually do and go back to Femroe.

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The 2 races lore does confirm the existence of both genotypes so look forward to NPC only Bunnyboys and Lion girls I guess.

I find it kinda sad that Helion/The Lost are basically going to go with the same color palettes/hues that the Roegadyn have with Hellguard and Sea Wolves.

Oh well.

[Eloah]

I'm glad other people have expressed the mild annoyance at how the Hrothgar lore is explained. Like really, grrr...

[Duskane]

The lost lore isnt very different to hellsguard,
Sea wolfs and Helions ain't that much different to me either.

[SkyEdge1]

While I appreciate the lore, it does rub me the wrong way when I hear the descriptions of the opposite genders for both races. I mean, dammit all they are already not playable SE, do you really need to make Male Vieras sound like awesome shadow bunny ninjas, protecting the forest from evil??? And ofc the only other truly matriarchal race, with the possibility of savage warrior queens equal if not greater in ferocity to the males is also locked. >__> consider me miffed.

[Nihility]

so it's chocobunny V snowbunny and stripes V spots?

i'm having a hard time finding any other real differences

[Duskane]

so it's chocobunny V snowbunny and stripes V spots?

i'm having a hard time finding any other real differences

Looks like The Lost have Black Sclera which is pretty cool

[Rokke]

so it's chocobunny V snowbunny and stripes V spots?

the reveal trailer for hrothgar showed a leopard male in the helion clan, so both are likely just color swaps with one group getting warm undertones and the other cool.

[Halivel]

While I appreciate the lore, it does rub me the wrong way when I hear the descriptions of the opposite genders for both races. I mean, dammit all they are already not playable SE, do you really need to make Male Vieras sound like awesome shadow bunny ninjas, protecting the forest from evil??? And ofc the only other truly matriarchal race, with the possibility of savage warrior queens equal if not greater in ferocity to the males is also locked. >__> consider me miffed.

Male Vieras don't even sound like this in Japanese, they "live nomadic lifes" in their description. So "protectors from shadows" is English thing, have no idea why they wrote it like this.

As for Hroths I'm glad that they mentioned females at all and, more than that, Helion tribe seems to be very matriarchal. Because they were able to write "they reproduce with some undepeveloped way and do not have women" to simply close the whole topic about opposite genders. At this point having them in lore is a good thing.

UPD. Somehow ended up with daily limit on second message in a day. So will edit this one:

I'm sorry..... but I just can't buy the lore of the Hrothgar.

A species that exists where females are the majority sex can exist and makes sense as one male can have several female mates at the same time in order to keep the species alive. The reverse is not true. Unless the queen of the Hrothgar is in a perpetual state of pregnancy, and every birth is to multiple offspring, then the population of the species would dwindle off and die due to too few new children being born.

I realize it's a fantasy game and I'm supposed to have a suspension of disbelief... but this is one point I know I will have a hard time accepting.

I am agree that their story is a bit confusing, but, well, it is not even a lore yet but simple description. We still know nothing about Hroths. Maybe they live so long that there is no need for giving birth too often and lack of females is not really a problem? Or they reproduce in more animalistic way with a lot of children at once with short pregnancy period? Maybe both at time, so living long and reproducing with a lot of children? There are some ways to play on this aspect so I suppose we should wait before making any strict conclusions.

Yet no one bring up the fact that there is lion, tiger, leopard and wolf in, akhem, one race. If there is a lion woman and wolf man - what kind of children will be born from this couple!?

[wereotter]

I'm sorry..... but I just can't buy the lore of the Hrothgar.

A species that exists where females are the majority sex can exist and makes sense as one male can have several female mates at the same time in order to keep the species alive. The reverse is not true. Unless the queen of the Hrothgar is in a perpetual state of pregnancy, and every birth is to multiple offspring, then the population of the species would dwindle off and die due to too few new children being born.

I realize it's a fantasy game and I'm supposed to have a suspension of disbelief... but this is one point I know I will have a hard time accepting.

[Aryalandi]

Any lore that confirms existence at all is decidedly good lore, they seem to be quite deliberately leaving a door open for later on at the very least.

I find the Veena interesting, they sound like they are natural wanderers compared to the Rava, both groups though sound like they would fit right in within Gridania once the xenophobia wore off, I can imagine the Viera and Padjal getting along quite well, and a Viera cnj would just.. fit, given that the whole point of that story is basically following the will of the elementals and acting as a caretaker of the forest, pretty much trying to reclaim their connection with nature and the green word to some extent after leaving home.

I can imagine quite a bit of added significance in Kan-E asking the elementals to show one favor at the end of the initial Gridania storylne

Hrothgar going off to Ul'dah to become gladiators would also be pretty fitting, appearance wise they match up to Raubahn pretty well, it's always got to be an experience for that man to have someone at eye level, or even more than that to have to /look up/ a bit to someone lol...