Can we have a server merger after fee take place ?

[Betelgeuzah]

Yet another reason not to play any MMO.

I hope that the server clusters still allow me to designate in what language I want to play with others.

[Murugan]

Like it or not, servers are getting restructured. It sucks that it's happening after the fact, but there's no turning back time. Mergers are definitely coming, and regional servers are a possibility. From what I understand, it's being considered because many JP players want it (not that it matters who's asking for it, but to get angry at those on the NA forums who agree it's a good idea is futile). And Yoshi-P said here that they would like to designate at least one RP server.



"Your kind"? Listen to yourself. If anyone sounds racist here...



Actually, regional servers are the MMO standard. Final Fantasy is the only game I've played that doesn't do this.

The MMO standard is that way because most games are region locked. Many MMO's only launch in a single region, and are marketed only to a single audience.

The internet however is global, from the time you access it (not counting censoring) you are connected to people around the globe.

Yes when I put exactly what you are asking for that way it does sound racist doesn't it?

Maybe you should think about why you have time to play MMO's and post 985 times on this forum, but you can't spend the effort to play with others who maybe don't speak English very well (or at all, though at all is a stretch as obviously all Japanese players playing Final Fantasy XIV speak at least a very small amount of English), especially when the game has provided you with an in-game translation tool.

So many others have. Not only in FFXIV either, people all over the world for a great deal of reasons manage to do this. Yet you are so against it. You must have your own server... for your own kind.

[Blarp]

The MMO standard is that way because most games are region locked. Many MMO's only launch in a single region, and are marketed only to a single audience.

The internet however is global, from the time you access it (not counting censoring) you are connected to people around the globe.

Yes when I put exactly what you are asking for that way it does sound racist doesn't it?

Then you must be a racist since you're posting in a language specific forum.

[Murugan]

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The MMO standard is that way because most games are region locked. Many MMO's only launch in a single region, and are marketed only to a single audience.

The internet however is global, from the time you access it (not counting censoring) you are connected to people around the globe.

Yes when I put exactly what you are asking for that way it does sound racist doesn't it?

Then you must be a racist since you're posting in a language specific forum.

No but if I went to a bulletin board where people were encouraged to post in various languages, and told them they had to speak one language and be segregated. That would be quite racist.

It is racist to insist that people have to be separated, or would be unarguably better off separated, because they speak different languages, even when it has been demonstrated that people can manage just fine through the language barrier. It represents an unwillingness to interact with others unlike you, and it demonstrates a pretty clear aversion to people who clash culturally with you.

Yes, I'm afraid promoting segregation and racism are quite interrelated.

[Rowyne]

No but if I went to a bulletin board where people were encouraged to post in various languages, and told them they had to speak one language and be segregated. That would be quite racist.

That's like saying I'm racist and lazy because I don't comb through the JP forums using Google translate. In fact... that's something we've been asked not to do by Yoshi-P and the forum mods because it causes a whole mess of issues.

It is racist to insist that people have to be separated, or would be unarguably better off separated, because they speak different languages, even when it has been demonstrated that people can manage just fine through the language barrier. It represents an unwillingness to interact with others unlike you, and it demonstrates a pretty clear aversion to people who clash culturally with you.

Manage is the key word. Would you rather exist or enjoy life? Get by or be comfortable? Having a preference doesn't make you racist. Hatred makes you racist, and no one is hating on anyone, here. It's not being suggested that if we have regional servers, we can't also have global servers. What's wrong with giving people the option?

I think I understand your frustration, here. I love Besaid, and I wouldn't want to see it turn into something I'm not happy with. I think if they regionalize the servers, they need to give people the option of free transfers.

Put pointing fingers and calling names won't help anything. You're turning this into something it's not.

[Murugan]

That's like saying I'm racist and lazy because I don't comb through the JP forums using Google translate. In fact... that's something we've been asked not to do by Yoshi-P and the forum mods because it causes a whole mess of issues.



Manage is the key word. Would you rather exist or enjoy life? Get by or be comfortable? Having a preference doesn't make you racist. Hatred makes you racist, and no one is hating on anyone, here. It's not being suggested that if we have regional servers, we can't also have global servers. What's wrong with giving people the option?

I think I understand your frustration, here. I love Besaid, and I wouldn't want to see it turn into something I'm not happy with. I think if they regionalize the servers, they need to give people the option of free transfers.

Put pointing fingers and calling names won't help anything. You're turning this into something it's not.

Because being on a server with a Japanese person is like misquoting a developer and causing hysteria over improperly translated information.

You don't want it to be about racism. Because you want to believe you have no racist motivations.

You say in your post that being segregated=enjoying life. That if you lived with people who were different from you that would simply be "existing".

Having a preference for a race definitely makes someone a racist.

If they introduce a limited number of regional servers for people like you, then those should be new servers. No one should have to transfer off of their server because they are not of the approved "region" for its new designation.

To do that would be beyond merely hinting at racism, it would be an act of discrimination on the part of Square Enix.

[Rowyne]

You don't want it to be about racism. Because you want to believe you have no racist motivations.

This has nothing to do with race. It has to do with language. I don't care what color your skin is, or where your ancestors hail from. I only care about speaking the same language.

You say in your post that being segregated=enjoying life. That if you lived with people who were different from you that would simply be "existing".

Nope, I was making a comparison between managing (a word you chose) and choosing an environment that makes your life easier. And not having to deal with a language barrier makes life easier for many people.

Having a preference for a race definitely makes someone a racist.

Nope, I have a preference for the English language.

If they introduce a limited number of regional servers for people like you, then those should be new servers. No one should have to transfer off of their server because they are not of the approved "region" for its new designation.

To do that would be beyond merely hinting at racism, it would be an act of discrimination on the part of Square Enix.

No, people might have to move because SE is completely restructuring their game and their servers after the fact, because the old dev team was living under a rock and had no idea what modern MMO standards were.

No matter how hard you try, you just can't use the racist card.

[Murugan]

This has nothing to do with race. It has to do with language. I don't care what color your skin is, or where your ancestors hail from. I only care about speaking the same language.



Nope, I was making a comparison between managing (a word you chose) and choosing an environment that makes your life easier. And not having to deal with a language barrier makes life easier for many people.



Nope, I have a preference for the English language.



No, people might have to move because SE is completely restructuring their game and their servers after the fact, because the old dev team was living under a rock and had no idea what modern MMO standards were.

No matter how hard you try, you just can't use the racist card.

It is not simply about language. Language is not a barrier to playing on the same server in FFXIV. Nor would regional servers make life easier for everyone. It would make things quite a bit more difficult for me.

This is something you want for yourself, for your reasons. It is not something that should be imposed on existing players.

[Rowyne]

It is not simply about language. Language is not a barrier to playing on the same server in FFXIV. Nor would regional servers make life easier for everyone. It would make things quite a bit more difficult for me.

And, as I said, I'm sorry about that. But it's a given that in the upcoming server merges, no matter how painless they try to make it, someone's going to get inconvenienced. There's no getting around it.

This is something you want for yourself, for your reasons. It is not something that should be imposed on existing players.

Right... because Yoshi-P read my mind and considered it before I ever voiced my desire for it on the forums, just to appease me.

There's obviously a considerable number of people who think it's a good idea and the best thing for the community in the long-term, even if it inconveniences some people for the short-term.

[Murugan]

And, as I said, I'm sorry about that. But it's a given that in the upcoming server merges, no matter how painless they try to make it, someone's going to get inconvenienced. There's no getting around it.



Right... because Yoshi-P read my mind and considered it before I ever voiced my desire for it on the forums, just to appease me.

There's obviously a considerable number of people who think it's a good idea and the best thing for the community in the long-term, even if it inconveniences some people for the short-term.

Way around it: Let people like you go choose your own server so you can segregate yourselves, not forcing segregation on the rest of us.

If you want to give live on a compound in Oregon you are welcome to do that. Just don't come to where I live and tell me it has been designated a Japanese only neighborhood.