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    I agree, I've posted about this in another thread, it's because there is no ilv cap.

    Every piece of content needs to have a minimum ilv and max ilv cap so that in the future re-doing them doesn't feel too easy and a complete joke. It's also to keep the new player experience intact as most new players or returning players won't ever to get experience what the real fight was suppose to be like.

    Even in the SB some of the content allows players to be 80-120 ilv over the entry requirement, while these content still feel somewhat challenging as not everyone has the max ilv400 gear these content won't feel like that in the next expansion when everyone gets sync'd down to the max for every piece of content for SB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZellosWilder View Post
    I agree, I've posted about this in another thread, it's because there is no ilv cap.

    Every piece of content needs to have a minimum ilv and max ilv cap so that in the future re-doing them doesn't feel too easy and a complete joke. It's also to keep the new player experience intact as most new players or returning players won't ever to get experience what the real fight was suppose to be like.

    Even in the SB some of the content allows players to be 80-120 ilv over the entry requirement, while these content still feel somewhat challenging as not everyone has the max ilv400 gear these content won't feel like that in the next expansion when everyone gets sync'd down to the max for every piece of content for SB.
    There is a ilvl cap. If there wouldn't be one that stuff would be solo content...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    There is a ilvl cap. If there wouldn't be one that stuff would be solo content...
    No it's lv capped there is no ilv cap, your gear gets sync'd down but there is no ilv cap.

    Content that has the ilv cap has the sync'd icon when you join through duty finder. It also shows what the min ilv requirement is and what the max ilv that you can have is.

    Crystal Tower does not have this icon.


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    The entry requirement for Crystal Tower is also ilv 55 so the cap should be around ilv 100 to make sure the fight is still fun and enjoyable as it was originally intended and designed to be.
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    Last edited by ZellosWilder; 04-10-2019 at 11:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZellosWilder View Post
    Every piece of content needs to have a minimum ilv and max ilv cap so that in the future re-doing them doesn't feel too easy and a complete joke. It's also to keep the new player experience intact as most new players or returning players won't ever to get experience what the real fight was suppose to be like.
    Party Finder. Literally every single player can experience 2.0 content as it was intended sans cross skill removal for jobs and former meta for skills being obsolete. Party Finder>Blind run>Min. ilevel and slap on some old gear for full effect. It's just like Day 1 (probably).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Party Finder. Literally every single player can experience 2.0 content as it was intended sans cross skill removal for jobs and former meta for skills being obsolete. Party Finder>Blind run>Min. ilevel and slap on some old gear for full effect. It's just like Day 1 (probably).
    Players keep saying the same stuff... as though party finder works just like that when it doesn't.

    For "old content" the game isn't designed around full parties anymore, players can get clears from doing them via "unsync" if other players can get the clears quicker/easier with low man or solo nobody is going to be looking to join older content via party finder as they have already cleared them. I have been back to the game for the last past 2 month now and haven't seen one single party finder group looking to be able to clear older content. The main reason for this is because you don't need to waste time looking for a full group anymore as you only need 1-3 players and enter via unsync as I have seen players via PF looking to clear things unsync for khloe only.

    It's only going to work via party finder if unsync is removed from the game, as players will have to search via party finder or queue via duty finder to get those clears with full groups then.

    Also for alliance raids you will have to find 24 players on your server only (as you can't create alliances via cross-server) to join crystal tower this isn't going to be realistic... as you make it seem like it's super easy to do when the game clearly isn't designed around doing content to what the original ilv range was meant to be.

    Roulette is the main design of the game for players to join new players, these new players ain't joining via roulette and don't even know anything about doing this content via party finder with how it was intended. New players doing them how it is now is how they will think it has always been like as they don't know any better.


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    The only way this is going to be fixed if the dev team decides to remove unsync and add in a ilv cap range (min to max ilv) for each dungeon, raid and fight separately just like they have done so for some of them, at the moment they just lump them in all the same category for each expansion and let players sync down to the lv even tho the content for each expansion has a big ilv range difference from the earliest to latest content that were added. It's just laziness from the dev team, they should be going through each one and balancing them.
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    Last edited by ZellosWilder; 04-10-2019 at 12:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZellosWilder View Post
    No it's lv capped there is no ilv cap, your gear gets sync'd down but there is no ilv cap.

    Content that has the ilv cap has the sync'd icon when you join through duty finder. It also shows what the min ilv requirement is and what the max ilv that you can have is.

    Crystal Tower does not have this icon.


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    The entry requirement for Crystal Tower is also ilv 55 so the cap should be around ilv 100 to make sure the fight is still fun and enjoyable as it was originally intended and designed to be.
    All this stuff is capped to max ilvl of ARR and thats 130. SE just had to nerf the crap out of it so that people can do it fast enough and ignore mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
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    I agree with this. The level syncing makes the old content a complete faceroll. I have alot of friends that wish they could experience some of the older content like it was meant to be, and part of me is sad when they can't go through the tears of raid wipes in the CT series (Tho angry mango still can wipe a raid). I don't know if there is a good way to fix this however aside from boosting the difficulty. But even then I don't see that as the right answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlunarfox View Post
    I agree with this. The level syncing makes the old content a complete faceroll. I have alot of friends that wish they could experience some of the older content like it was meant to be, and part of me is sad when they can't go through the tears of raid wipes in the CT series (Tho angry mango still can wipe a raid). I don't know if there is a good way to fix this however aside from boosting the difficulty. But even then I don't see that as the right answer.
    Your friends can do that. Search for people in the PF for it and then go in there on min ilvl.
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    If anything the ilvl should be uncapped so we can get our roulette's done as quick as possible, if people want to do it at ilvl 130 they can party finder it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Party Finder. Literally every single player can experience 2.0 content as it was intended sans cross skill removal for jobs and former meta for skills being obsolete. Party Finder>Blind run>Min. ilevel and slap on some old gear for full effect. It's just like Day 1 (probably).
    Not 100% true. No second tank in the first 24 man alliance dungeon. Plus min ilv is not 100% the same. For some people min ilv is too much of a challenge. Imagine The Manor on hard mode on min ilv. If the min ilv is 55 many people would like ilv to be around 80. Not 130 or 110. I do see that they try but it still needs work. In a game where they balance jobs for raids and hard stuff why not let us use it. Weather you have a sam or a dragoon will not mage much difference in the long run. What if a new player joins a lv 50 dungeon and is week at there ups skill? A crit boost might really help or a war's dps post lv 50.
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    Last edited by RMA209; 04-19-2019 at 01:12 AM.

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