Dear SE, I am a Healer

[Kaedan]

Yep, if they wanted to make a new healer, they would have. No one is saying that to healers, not sure why that would come across to you that way, it's just that there's no answer to you not getting what you want besides "sorry, but this is how it is". This is the dev team's game and therefore its "vision" is what you get. I get why healers are upset, it basically just boils down to not getting what you want, but not sure why you think players are against you.

Admittedly, a lot of posters are completely unsympathetic, and some are downright mean about saying in various ways that we don't need any new healers.

I can understand where she's coming from, but I also understand what Yoshida said about wanting to balance the three we have first before trying to add a 4th. Sucks for healers that were expecting a new job to play with.

[cicatriz313]

Admittedly, a lot of posters are completely unsympathetic, and some are downright mean about saying in various ways that we don't need any new healers.

I can understand where she's coming from, but I also understand what Yoshida said about wanting to balance the three we have first before trying to add a 4th. Sucks for healers that were expecting a new job to play with.

There's a pretty far distance between being unsympathetic to players complaining about not getting something and saying explicit language to them. Disagreeing isn't the same as being "mean". If anything, the comment I replied to admitted to responding in anger which is more akin to what you're describing.

(Also, I agree we don't need new healers. I also don't think we need new jobs period though and it's more of just a carrot to bring people back each expansion. I don't even know what jobs I'd want to add at this point since we have so many to choose from.)

[Kaedan]

There's a pretty far distance between being unsympathetic to players complaining about not getting something and saying explicit language to them. Disagreeing isn't the same as being "mean". If anything, the comment I replied to admitted to responding in anger which is more akin to what you're describing.

(Also, I agree we don't need new healers. I also don't think we need new jobs period though and it's more of just a carrot to bring people back each expansion. I don't even know what jobs I'd want to add at this point since we have so many to choose from.)

Those were two separate thoughts. I.E. there's a group of people who are simply unsympathetic, which can be off-putting to healers, but not really a big deal.

But there's also a group of people who are outright trolling any healer they see that complains about not getting a new job.

[Aramina]

but I also understand what Yoshida said about wanting to balance the three we have first before trying to add a 4th.

The problem with this is, it is literally the exact.same.reason we were given on why there was no new healer in SB. We will see what happens, but right now it seems like a blow-off since they have had 2 years to balance it, but by their own comments have failed to do so. Why should we believe another 2 years will help anything?

[cicatriz313]

The problem with this is, it is literally the exact.same.reason we were given on why there was no new healer in SB. We will see what happens, but right now it seems like a blow-off since they have had 2 years to balance it, but by their own comments have failed to do so. Why should we believe another 2 years will help anything?

It's a similar reason, but still different I think. First of all, there's the whole needing it to be a tank and balancing ranged dps reason. Then the second reason isn't just "balancing healers", but that they want to shift away from the current system of balancing they have been working with since it's not working well. I agree that people have reason to doubt though, and you shouldn't believe it will help anything if you don't want to. I don't think it was a "blow-off" to healers in any way though, as in I don't think that was their intention. Like, why would they WANT healers in their game to feel that way?

[Aramina]

It's a similar reason, but still different I think.

It's not. He literally said they wanted to balance Tanks, and Healers, before adding any new ones before SB launched. Now we are still hearing that Healers need to be balanced. You can attribute any meaning to what he said that you want to, but I am going by only what was explicitly said.

edit: I should note that I am not completely up in arms about the lack of a healer, I am still immensely excited for ShB. That said though, we best not hear the same thing for a third time two years from now.

[cicatriz313]

It's not. He literally said they wanted to balance Tanks, and Healers, before adding any new ones before SB launched. Now we are still hearing that Healers need to be balanced. You can attribute any meaning to what he said that you want to, but I am going by only what was explicitly said.

edit: I should note that I am not completely up in arms about the lack of a healer, I am still immensely excited for ShB. That said though, we best not hear the same thing for a third time two years from now.

I am going by what he explicitly said as well, I posted it pages and pages back, but google MrHappy's interview and he said they wanted to get away from shield/direct heal duality. In other words, in 4.0 they tried to make shield/direct heal paradigm work and it isn't that dynamic so now they want to try to make something else work instead. If they can get that to work, I imagine it'll be easier to add a 4th healer, and, depending on the new paradigm, maybe even introduce brand new types of healers with less balance issues.

[Aramina]

now they want to try to make something else work instead.

This is the problematic part of our discussion. The above is pure conjecture. If they do try something different, great! If it works, even more great! However, I have seen nothing that, at this point, leads me to believe they will be trying anything different at all. Words are cheap, as they say. We will see two years from now.

[cicatriz313]

This is the problematic part of our discussion. The above is pure conjecture. If they do try something different, great! If it works, even more great! However, I have seen nothing that, at this point, leads me to believe they will be trying anything different at all. Words are cheap, as they say. We will see two years from now.

If you're saying I'm just throwing it out there baseless, here. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...8GTvPw4uI/edit
"When looking at this history of healing jobs. Making strong balance between three jobs it has been tough. With three its been tough, so with a 4th the balance might get even worse. Instead of doing this, we want to prioritize balancing them better this expansion so we didn’t want to add a new healer at 4.0 or 5.0. We really think we need to restructure the way healers are handled. We can’t keep this strict division between pure healer and barrier healer. Something needs to change here so we can maintain good balance. Thats the main reason we didn’t have a healer. First priority was to add a 3rd ranged, then a 4th tank while we balance the healers better." If you're saying you don't believe what Yoshi says, then yeah. Can't really convince you on that front.

[Maero]

I am going by what he explicitly said as well, I posted it pages and pages back, but google MrHappy's interview and he said they wanted to get away from shield/direct heal duality. In other words, in 4.0 they tried to make shield/direct heal paradigm work and it isn't that dynamic so now they want to try to make something else work instead. If they can get that to work, I imagine it'll be easier to add a 4th healer, and, depending on the new paradigm, maybe even introduce brand new types of healers with less balance issues.

Or the rebalancing could not work out again or possibly if it does work out and 6.0 comes around and only dps are announced.
I wonder what will then be the reasoning....