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  1. #2981
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    Lucky Turtle
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    Blasting this song, the 2 or maybe 3 people who post 500 times demanding "traditional" looking manly-men Viera and calling other people creepy:

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  2. #2982
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Critique and criticism are two different things. Also, throwing those sorts of accusations and implications at people doesn't seem to be allowed on these forums as I've seen mods take down such posts. You can disagree and post your critique, just leave the creepy stuff out of it.
    It's actually wild that people will say "if you don't like someone's criticism of something, then don't respond" but will not apply that same logic to the person who is being critical of something, especially when that person has no evidence of value to back their accusations.
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  3. #2983
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fufupel View Post
    Male Viera may exist but aren't they few in number and completely isolated? You're willing to follow reality's true portrayal of male rabbits being smaller than female, yet when it comes to this games accurate representation of male viera you're willing to let it slide?
    Because a race that is based off of an animal following an animal's dimorphism especially when no other race in the game follows it is not only cool but refreshing.
    Because male rabbits are sent outside their warren to patrol and protect it, and we still see them in the wild.
    Because they are sapient and when literal actual documentable calamities loom overhead they can change their expression of their culture quite easily (just like the isolationist Raen).
    Because male moonkeepers hold the Same. Exact. Lore. and are still playable and yet I don't see anyone calling for them to be removed.
    Because saying "ALL OF THIS RACE/GENDER MUST BEHAVE LIKE THIS WITH NO EXCEPTIONS" is completely unbelievable when it comes to a whole population of sapient individuals.
    While the biology pushing the average height of a race/gender in a certain direction is way more believeable, and is just straight up accepted for every other race where the males just happen to be bigger than the females.
    Because one option adds something unique to the game in terms of player expression and diversity of the races' morphology, and the other option adds literally nothing.
    Weaving interesting established biological theming into your race is not the same as ass-pull lore being used as an excuse to not finish a race.

    I really don't see what's so hard to get from that. Really I don't.



    Quote Originally Posted by niteypants View Post
    Blasting this song, the 2 or maybe 3 people who post 500 times demanding "traditional" looking manly-men Viera and calling other people creepy:

    Dying.
    I'm dying.
    This image killed me.



    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post

    Etroveria on Tumblr. This one in particular seems to be what ppl who want a slim male viera are askng for (just guessing)
    SORRY SCROLLING BACK TO SEE WHAT I MISSED OVER THE DAY AND I ALMOST SCREAMED WHEN I SAW THIS PICTURE HOLY GOD.

    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post

    Wanderpus on Tumblr
    These are wonderful. I particularly like the bubblegum pink one as well as the grey/blue one. The purple one in the top right corner reminds me of wildstar's Aurin which I appreciate very very much.
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    Last edited by Roda; 04-09-2019 at 09:43 AM. Reason: tender man buns give me life

  4. #2984
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    Nalfein's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Also, throwing those sorts of accusations and implications at people doesn't seem to be allowed on these forums as I've seen mods take down such posts.
    I would leave that part to the mods, they're more than capable to judge by themselves.
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  5. #2985
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Merry 3000th post, everyone!

    Bear in mind that even the most stereotypical viera is, in player hands, going to be in a city and profession that is a melting pot of different skills. I’d dare say that being isolated from their own culture and forced to pick up skills that other cultures would find valuable and would pay good money for would mean male viera would be in a great position to experience the wider world.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 04-09-2019 at 09:51 AM.

  6. #2986
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Merry 3000th post, everyone!

    Bear in mind that even the most stereotypical viera is, in player hands, going to be in a city and profession that is a melting pot of different skills.
    Thank you for the evidence that the mods have apparently been very busy. '3'
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  7. #2987
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalfein View Post
    I would leave that part to the mods, they're more than capable to judge by themselves.
    If you say something inflammatory, or agitating you are just as open to criticism and critique of your stance as anyone else. When an artist comes here and posts art of BOTH options and you continue to say "Aha the one I don't like is creepy and unoriginal!" yes, people are allowed to call your attitude rotten and rude, you can make a rebuttal but you're not going to make people stop liking something by calling EVERYTHING(Not just the creepy child pictures) that is against what you want creepy unoriginal and uninteresting.

    Male Viera may exist but aren't they few in number and completely isolated? You're willing to follow reality's true portrayal of male rabbits being smaller than female, yet when it comes to this games accurate representation of male viera you're willing to let it slide?
    Something something duskwright elf, something something male mooncat, again as stated it isn't realistic in any setting for every single male viera to never consider leaving the wood or never ever consider wanting something different in their lives. Unless they're just unthinking mindless mate machines, which doesn't seem to be the case as they can exercise some form of free thought.
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  8. #2988
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    If you say something inflammatory, or agitating you are just as open to criticism and critique of your stance as anyone else. When an artist comes here and posts art of BOTH options and you continue to say "Aha the one I don't like is creepy and unoriginal!" yes, people are allowed to call your attitude rotten and rude, you can make a rebuttal but you're not going to make people stop liking something by calling EVERYTHING(Not just the creepy child pictures) that is against what you want creepy unoriginal and uninteresting.
    I'm agree but people will voice their opinion no matter what you say so best to deal with it.
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  9. #2989
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalfein View Post
    I'm agree but people will voice their opinion no matter what you say so best to deal with it.
    That's what this is for

    And in dire situations this , paired with this


    Quote Originally Posted by Nalfein View Post
    Perhaps we should be back on topic "Male Viera as a playable character! show your support" ?

    It is now 300 pages long and has 1594 likes.

    Don't forget to click like on the first page if you're new to the thread, we're almost hitting 1k600!
    Holee h*ck we are close I hadn't even looked at the op in a while X_X

    Hopefully I can kick my butt into gear and actually draw something up for once in my life.
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    Last edited by Roda; 04-09-2019 at 10:37 AM. Reason: saving post count '3'

  10. #2990
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    Warit Jutamachat
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    Perhaps we should be back on topic "Male Viera as a playable character! show your support" ?

    It is now 300 pages long and has 1594 likes.

    Don't forget to click like on the first page if you're new to the thread, we're almost hitting 1k600!
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