You can't "lock" something that doesn't exist.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

It isn't our fault you don't know what a term means. Pretty embarrassing you felt the need to make an entire topic about it when a google search would have told you what "genderlocked" means.

And I did one. Haven't found a single link saying it's a race locked to one gender. All of it was classes/jobs locked to one gender.

[Lacan]

Your statement became irrelevant the moment you said heavily modified. If Hrothgar is using a heavily modified roe model, then you could also say that it using a heavily modified Zbrush/Maya/3DS Max human base, or heavily modified cube if thats what they start with. Very few character models start as a cube, and they need a base. If the roe model was used as a base, then fair enough, it makes sense given their size and build, but that doesn't make it any less of a new model.

I was just trying to say that gear wouldn't be as big of an issue if they did use the roe model as a base, since all the gear in the game is already mapped to that model's skeleton. Not trying to downplay the effort that had to go into making the model though, it is obvious they put a lot of work into it. That's why we still aren't 100% if it is partially reused assets or not.

[Lambdafish]

I was just trying to say that gear wouldn't be as big of an issue if they did use the roe model as a base, since all the gear in the game is already mapped to that model's skeleton. Not trying to downplay the effort that had to go into making the model though, it is obvious they put a lot of work into it. That's why we still aren't 100% if it is partially reused assets or not.

You could be right, it makes sense to use Roe as a reference, but to all the people saying "it's just a roe body with a cat head", you are all ignorant to how character models are made

[LaylaTsarra]

You could be right, it makes sense to use Roe as a reference, but to all the people saying "it's just a roe body with a cat head", you are all ignorant to how character models are made

The Hrothgar spoiler video is pretty awesome. Perhaps they used some assets from the Roe model but after all is said and done the animations and look for the male gender presented at Fanfest is pretty awesome in my opinion. I plan on Fantasia for two of my alts to Viera (perhaps one for each clan) and I will certainly be making a character for the male Hrothgar when the benchmark hits next month and will probably have fun playing it when 5.0 hits.

https://youtu.be/2l82wTaVhW0

I would certainly have to reserve judgement on any male Viera or female Hrothgar until they're shown not only as concept art if that is coming but the actually models in game with their animations. Personally I was very excited to learn female Viera were coming but I was still very reserved about my excitement until they presented them in game along with their running and other related animations. I was ecstatic to see that they were simply awesome.

Personally I could never warm up to female Elzen, Highlander or Roe's. They just didn't do it for me and still don't but that is a very personal decision and I respect those who enjoy those genders in game.

[DumdogsWorld]

This may seem unrelated at first...but....I remember when I tried making some custom races for Skyrim via modding. I wanted to do something a little different than the rest of the race mods that existed. I wanted to make a playable race that wasn't a humanoid with a custom head and tail. I wanted a race that was actually more...beastly.

Rearrange the vertices in existing 3D models to make the proportions and poses different? That went smoothly.

Re-texturing the models so it doesn't look like they were simply stretched out? That went smoothly.

Making new animations? It took a long, long time, but it went smoothly.

Re-doing the armors/clothing in the game to match the new body structure of the race? That took even longer, but it went smoothly.

All of the individual tasks that I had to go through went rather smoothly, despite being time consuming.

So how did it turn out?

It was a consistency nightmare. Clipping. Clipping everywhere!

And things worse than clipping. Animation bugs. The game had virtually no cutscenes, but the ones that existed completely broke.

Forget riding on a horse.

Forget....um...playing the game!

Now back to talking about FFXIV:

Things may seem easy on paper, but half of the time, the real effort is in the "glue" that holds things together. This isn't Skyrim and Bethesda we're talking about, either. It's FFXIV and Square Enix. Things that other companies get away with would never work here. Players have brain aneurysms over miqo'te tail clipping.

Square Enix can make it happen, but even if it does happen, it's going to take effort and time. Save your fantasias for later.

[Lacan]

And I did one. Haven't found a single link saying it's a race locked to one gender. All of it was classes/jobs locked to one gender.

It refers to anything that is locked to one gender. It really isn't that complicated. Don't get why people are so hung up on word choice all of a sudden. People referred to miqote and roes as genderlocked back in 1.0 as well and there wasn't a raging debate over it. Think it was even used to describe Mithra and Galka too. You guys just want to argue semantics.

[Alucard135]

you are all ignorant to how character models are made

It is as if it's forbidden for a designer to use a shortcut to create a new model in a quicker time and must start from a plane every time lol.

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Sadly a lot don't understand this nightmare and think that the dev team can do all that on demand quickly and they're just lazy (they better not reuse another race as a base model!!).

[Melichoir]

Again with this:

Everyone who is familiar with MMOs understands what Gender Locking means. You are arguing semantics in an effort to discredit the crux of what people are upset about. Stop it please and stick to the more meaningful issue which is people's dissatisfaction with how two races were rolled out with only one gender selectable.

[Joven]

Again with this:

Everyone who is familiar with MMOs understands what Gender Locking means. You are arguing semantics in an effort to discredit the crux of what people are upset about. Stop it please and stick to the more meaningful issue which is people's dissatisfaction with how two races were rolled out with only one gender selectable.

They're not trying to discredit anything, just point out that all this fussing isn't helping anything. How much of a drama poo storm would have happened if the developers had decided not to release ANY new races? The fact that we're getting TWO at once is pretty darned considerate of them even with the limitations. Also the fact that they never said they WEREN'T going to release the other genders, just not at this juncture.

[Lacan]

They're not trying to discredit anything, just point out that all this fussing isn't helping anything. How much of a drama poo storm would have happened if the developers had decided not to release ANY new races? The fact that we're getting TWO at once is pretty darned considerate of them even with the limitations. Also the fact that they never said they WEREN'T going to release the other genders, just not at this juncture.

I don't see how making a thread trying to pick apart commonly accepted terminology is going to help the fact people are making fuss over this issue though. Trying to point out that "genderlock doesn't mean what you think it means because I decided what it means right now by myself!!" isn't going to do anything but add more fuel to the fire.