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    What is the point of this thread? To start drama? 1.0 was genderlocked. They unlocked and gave us boicats, and female this and thats. Why go out of your way to post a thread badmouthing people who only want to choose the gender they want for the race they like??
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    "I am Velius, the devil" - Velius, FFT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    What is the point of this thread? To start drama? 1.0 was genderlocked. They unlocked and gave us boicats, and female this and thats. Why go out of your way to post a thread badmouthing people who only want to choose the gender they want for the race they like??
    Just because OP has a different opinion doesn't mean they're badmouthing people. All they're saying is that you're using a word in a wrong manner and why people didn't get the other genders. They didn't say that you're not allowed to ask for the gender you want for the race you like. An opinion is not an attack.

    So let me ask this, do you consider both sentences to be one and the same in terms of meaning and why?
    • Please remove the lock on X feature in the game
    • Please add X feature to the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    What is the point of this thread? To start drama? 1.0 was genderlocked. They unlocked and gave us boicats, and female this and thats. Why go out of your way to post a thread badmouthing people who only want to choose the gender they want for the race they like??
    So where exactly in the following post is the OP badmouthing anyone? Seems to me you're the one opening her post for drama. There is nothing in her/his OP that creates drama from what I can see. The OP seems to make a lot of sense to me and isn't attacking anyone other than expressing an opinion in a polite and courteous way about why only two genders were made. I totally agree with everything she has said.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo View Post
    I'm seeing all sorts of stuff about "gender lock" on the two new races, as if SE is purposefully withholding content from us, and that female Hrothgar and male Viera exist as playable races, but are "locked" from us.

    The thing is, making another gender of an existing race is the same amount of work as making a single gender of a new race. You can't just slap boobs on a hrothgar and call it female, you have to make an entirely new model, and you have to match existing gear to it, you have to make all the new customization options, and the list of things just goes on.

    The fact is, it takes the same amount of manpower and effort to make a single race with two genders as it does to make two races with a single gender.

    They did not have the manpower to make two races with two genders. They've told us this, and they've said that because they wanted to include hrothgar, a concession had to be made.

    Yes, I do believe the other genders should be created. But no, I don't believe there's any locking, malice, personal attacks on sexuality, or anything of that nature that I've seen in the general hubbub that is these forums.

    We got a nice thing. We had to lose another nice thing to get it. I'd say have patience, and that the extra genders will come eventually.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 04-10-2019 at 08:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    So where exactly in the following post is the OP badmouthing anyone? Seems to me you're the one opening her post for drama. There is nothing in her/his OP that creates drama from what I can see. The OP seems to make a lot of sense to me and isn't attacking anyone other than expressing an opinion in a polite and courteous way about why only two genders were made. I totally agree with everything she has said.
    If you insist on approaching this matter with logic and common sense you need to get off the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    What is the point of this thread? To start drama?
    Nah, I'm pretty sure you're the only person starting drama right now. What was the point of your comment exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    K. Whatever you say Mister throws assumptions.



    You miss the point. The problem is where we could have diversity, we have none. The absence of male viera and female hrothgar is the absence of diversity.

    It's not necessarily about them being viera, hrothgar or anything. It's about how the playable genders look. There are no elegant, slender and sexy males. There are no large, imposing and muscular bestial females.

    I'm tired of being pigeonholed into being a cutesy or sexy race if I want to play a female with bestial features. And I know others are tired of masculinity always equating to being larger and stronger than comparitively smaller women.

    It's boring to see this over and over again.
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    "he ignores some historical and economic facts"
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    used in discussing the significance of something that is the case.

    None of your statements presents any evidence that what you say is taken as fact. So tell me again how I'm throwing assumptions around.

    If you have a problem with being 'cutesy' or 'sexy' and find the concept boring then maybe this game isn't for you. This game doesn't need more diversity as there's plenty of it already. If you want to play as a beefy woman pick fem-roes or hyur highlanders, both of which can be pretty muscular. You claim you're tired of being cutesy yet you chose to play as a catgirl, yeah, ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    If you have a problem with being 'cutesy' or 'sexy' and find the concept boring then maybe this game isn't for you.
    You haven't really been paying attention. Female characters getting pigeonholed into looking cute and/or sexy happens all the time. It can be very difficult to escape it AND find a game with mechanics you like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    This game doesn't need more diversity as there's plenty of it already. If you want to play as a beefy woman pick fem-roes or hyur highlanders, both of which can be pretty muscular. You claim you're tired of being cutesy yet you chose to play as a catgirl, yeah, ok.
    But I didn't say I wanted to be beefy. I said bestial. Roes and highlanders don't qualify as that. So not only do you not pay attention to how females are usually represented in games in general, you also do not read.

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    It's not necessarily about them being viera, hrothgar or anything. It's about how the playable genders look. There are no elegant, slender and sexy males. There are no large, imposing and muscular bestial females.
    I play a moon catgirl because I like the ears, the lion tail and the fangs. You know, bestial features.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 04-11-2019 at 07:51 AM.

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    Great way to sum it up, OP!
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    You guys are really bored, aren't you? 18 pages of worthless arguments on sementics that achieve absolutly nothing.

    And then you complain that SE doesn't listen to the official forums enough...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    You guys are really bored, aren't you? 18 pages of worthless arguments on sementics that achieve absolutly nothing.
    I would say on a positive note that at least OP here made it about semantics from post #1. A lot of the other threads are also about semantics but pretend to be about some sort of social message or something.
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