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    JohnnyDevo's Avatar
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    You can't "lock" something that doesn't exist.

    I'm seeing all sorts of stuff about "gender lock" on the two new races, as if SE is purposefully withholding content from us, and that female Hrothgar and male Viera exist as playable races, but are "locked" from us.

    The thing is, making another gender of an existing race is the same amount of work as making a single gender of a new race. You can't just slap boobs on a hrothgar and call it female, you have to make an entirely new model, and you have to match existing gear to it, you have to make all the new customization options, and the list of things just goes on.

    The fact is, it takes the same amount of manpower and effort to make a single race with two genders as it does to make two races with a single gender.

    They did not have the manpower to make two races with two genders. They've told us this, and they've said that because they wanted to include hrothgar, a concession had to be made.

    Yes, I do believe the other genders should be created. But no, I don't believe there's any locking, malice, personal attacks on sexuality, or anything of that nature that I've seen in the general hubbub that is these forums.

    We got a nice thing. We had to lose another nice thing to get it. I'd say have patience, and that the extra genders will come eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo View Post
    You can't just slap boobs on a hrothgar and call it female, you have to make an entirely new model.
    way to crush my hopes and dreams
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo View Post
    You can't just slap boobs on a hrothgar and call it female
    But you can put a kitty head on a male Roegadyn and call it a new race apparently. >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    But you can put a kitty head on a male Roegadyn and call it a new race apparently. >_>

    "But you can stretch out and add pointy ears on a Hyur and call it a new race apparently. >_>"
    "But you can put Kitty ears and a tail on a Hyur and call it a new race apparently. >_>"
    "But you can put scales and horns on an Male Elezen/ Female Midlander Hyur and call it a new race apparently. >_>"
    "But you can put Bunny Ears on a Female Elezen and call it a new race apparently. >_>
    "But you can put in a Potato call it a new race apparently. >_>"

    ... You want to go on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    "But you can stretch out and add pointy ears on a Hyur and call it a new race apparently. >_>"
    "But you can put Kitty ears and a tail on a Hyur and call it a new race apparently. >_>"
    "But you can put scales and horns on an Male Elezen/ Female Midlander Hyur and call it a new race apparently. >_>"
    "But you can put Bunny Ears on a Female Elezen and call it a new race apparently. >_>
    "But you can put in a Potato call it a new race apparently. >_>"

    ... You want to go on?
    You say all this, but aside from Potatoes and Roes, Miqo'te, Au Ra, and Elezen all use a doctored up Hyur model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    You say all this, but aside from Potatoes and Roes, Miqo'te, Au Ra, and Elezen all use a doctored up Hyur model.
    Which make Hrothgar a good addition to the game, because it doesn't use a doctored Roe model, its entirely unique. Viera on the other hand...... I guess the community wanted it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Which make Hrothgar a good addition to the game, because it doesn't use a doctored Roe model, its entirely unique.
    Well, technically we will know only after 5.0 release when certain part of community will investigate it. There is high chance that they share body with Roes. Fur is a texture most likely, not part of 3D model itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    "But you can stretch out and add pointy ears on a Hyur and call it a new race apparently. >_>"
    "But you can put Kitty ears and a tail on a Hyur and call it a new race apparently. >_>"
    "But you can put scales and horns on an Male Elezen/ Female Midlander Hyur and call it a new race apparently. >_>"
    "But you can put Bunny Ears on a Female Elezen and call it a new race apparently. >_>
    "But you can put in a Potato call it a new race apparently. >_>"

    ... You want to go on?
    Hrothgar use a new model. The Roegadyn have more of a square shape torso, while the Hrothgar have more of a v shape torso.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Hrothgar use a new model. The Roegadyn have more of a square shape torso, while the Hrothgar have more of a v shape torso.
    It was mentioned before: all races (with the exception of Roe and Lala), use one model, adjusted to different parameters. Look at male Mid Hyur and male Au Ra. They are very different, but they use same body model. So there is a high chance that Hrothgars use Roe's body, not unique one. Welp, miners will investigate it quite soon anyway.
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    Last edited by Halivel; 04-09-2019 at 04:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    It was mentioned before: all races (with the exception of Roe and Lala), use one model, adjusted to different parameters. Look at male Mid Hyur and male Au Ra. They are very different, but they use same body model. So there is a high chance that Hrothgars use Roe's body, not unique one. Welp, miners will investigate it quite soon anyway.
    Even if one model is altered to make the options we have, does not mean they don't become new models once altered.
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